Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Obama and FDR....NEW Deal? Or Old Blunder?

Time for the truth, eh?

From February 15, 2009

Obama’s new deal is the same old blunder

Here’s something new: instead of the customary attempts to put an optimistic gloss on the state of the economy, our governments are doing exactly the opposite. Over here Ed Balls tells us, more or less, that this is the worst recession since dinosaurs roamed the primordial swamps. Meanwhile President Barack Obama declared last week that “if we don’t act immediately, our nation will sink into a crisis that at some point we may be unable to reverse”. As The Economist commented, with some alarm: “The notion that [America] might never recover was previously entertained only by bearded survivalists stockpiling beans and ammunition in remote log cabins.”

Obama’s dire assessment was on the surface the more surprising – wasn’t he supposed to be the great uplifter of the national mood, in the spirit of Franklin D Roosevelt’s “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself”? It seems all the odder because Obama has explicitly drawn on folk memories of FDR’s New Deal, telling television viewers to “keep in mind that in 1932, 1933 the unemployment rate was 25%”.

Obama is probably right to assume that those same memories have it that the massive state interventionism of the New Deal triumphantly restored America to full employment. That’s why he felt comfortable in asserting, on the eve of the launch of a $2 trillion (or so) injection of taxpayers’ money, “There is no disagreement that we need . . . a recovery plan that will help to jump-start the economy.”

He might, therefore, have been surprised to see an advertisement in the national papers, signed by more than 200 eminent economists, which declared: “With all due respect, Mr President, that is not true. Notwithstanding reports that all economists are now Keynesians . . . we the undersigned do not believe that more government spending is a way to improve economic performance. More government spending by Hoover and Roosevelt did not pull the United States economy out of the Great Depression in the 1930s.” The sorry facts bear this out. The unemployment rate in the US was still 19% in 1939. Over the following four years the number of unemployed workers declined dramatically, by more than 7m. This had a very particular reason: the number of men in military service rose by 8.6m.

You might say that it is always possible to find 200 economists to disagree with anything, but in fact the practitioners of the dismal science are genuinely divided on this one. When the US Journal of Economic History polled economists on the proposition that “Taken as a whole, government policies of the New Deal served to lengthen and deepen the Great Depression”, 49% agreed. These would be the ones who might have recalled the damning remark of FDR’s own Treasury secretary, Henry Morgenthau. In 1939 he confided: “We have tried spending money . . . it does not work . . . we have just as much unemployment . . . and an enormous debt to boot.”

The trouble, 70 years on, is that America’s debt is already enormous, even before Obama’s “jump-start” has begun to hoover up the taxpayers’ trillions.

Perhaps Obama will not repeat some of the errors of the New Deal. Roosevelt (and indeed Hoover) recalled the anger caused by the wage cuts during the depression of 1920-1 and cajoled employers to keep wage rates stable, even as output dropped. This is a policy supported by the Keynesians of today, who argue that lower wages lead to lower demand, which leads to lower output, which leads to more unemployment, and so on ad infinitum.

In practice, however, if labour costs do not come down in a recession, then employers are even less willing to hire staff. The US government of the 1930s augmented this error with protectionist tariffs – designed to keep out imports from countries that had not sought to maintain wage rates, regardless of profitability.

Unfortunately, it may be that Obama will indeed leap into the same elephant trap: the president issued an executive order this month requiring federal agencies to put in place agreements that set “wages, work rules and other benefits” when awarding big construction projects. Perhaps this is payback for the unions’ support for Obama during the election. Admittedly the White House has sought to strip out many of the “buy America” clauses that Congress had attached to its stimulus bill, but when the gold-plating of federal contracts reduces any beneficial effect they might have on overall employment rates, we can be certain that the protectionist chorus will then belt out again, fortissimo.

This fear was not the reason the Dow Jones index plunged by almost 5% between the moment the Treasury secretary, Tim Geithner, began to announce the details of the “rescue” package and when he had finished speaking. There was a stunning lack of detail in the plan to inject up to $2 trillion into the financial system – prompting the observation even from a firm supporter of his, the Nobel prize-winning economist Paul Krugman, that it reminded him of “an old joke from my younger days: what do you get when you cross a godfather with a deconstructionist? Someone who makes you an offer you can’t understand”.

How would the Treasury secretary invest the hundreds of billions earmarked to “rescue” the housing market? “We will announce details in the next few weeks.” How, exactly would he construct the announced $1 trillion public-private partnership to absorb the banks’ “toxic debts”? “We are not going to put out details until we have the right structure.” With apologies to Obama the author, this might be described as the opacity of hope.

It is, in fact, a dangerous mix of messages, and not just because it erodes the public’s sense that the administration knows what it is doing with all the billions it is throwing at the banking system – a complaint which over here is proving ever more damaging to our own government’s fading prospect of reelection.

You simply can’t tell the public on the one hand that there is an imminent danger of economic meltdown if your plans are not implemented – and on the other, give the impression that those plans are little more than scribbles on the back of an envelope. Obama is much more able to get away with such a mismatch between promise and practice – he has a fresh mandate and the high level of opinion poll support which tends to attach to that. Yet, for the same reason, he will never have had a better opportunity to harness popular goodwill to political action.

By contrast, the $787 billion fiscal stimulus that passed through Congress last week was almost too prescriptive, since Obama had allowed the House Democrats to write the cheques themselves: so, for example, there was $335m for STD prevention, $400m for research on global warming, $198m for Filipino veterans of the second world war. Noble of them, I’m sure, but how much is all of that guaranteed to “get America back to work”? Yet Obama mocked those who made such complaints: “You get the argument, well, this is not a stimulus bill; this is a spending bill. What do you think a stimulus is? That’s the whole point.”

In other words, Obama is backing the most primitive interpretation of Keynes’s theories: that any form of government spending amounts to an economic stimulus. He is almost blind to supply-side economics, which suggests that if you want to encourage profitable job creation, you should concentrate on reducing companies’ payroll taxes – and then leave individual businesses to decide how best to employ the funds released.

Instead, the young president seems to want to take us back to some of the failed policies of the 1930s, under the mistaken impression that they were a great triumph. He illustrates with dreadful clarity George Santayana’s most-quoted aphorism: those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it.

Z: Fasten your seatbelts, everyone...it's going to be a bumpy ride.

z


25 comments:

Tony C said...

Hey Z. Good info.

I loved the Gary Wright story over on Tony C Today. I posted a reply to hopefully make the connection.

It was a tongue-in-cheek piece making a little fun of anyone who goes to extremes either way in the political spectrum.

Always love your input!

Anonymous said...

"entertained only by bearded survivalists stockpiling beans and ammunition in remote log cabins.”

The Brits must have an intel satellite focused on my mountain!

Rita Loca said...

OT, but yes, I am nearly 100% better. Very busy, tho.

HERMIT! BWAAHAHAHA!

Ducky's here said...

It's an interesting article, z. However, until you mention that FDR DEPARTED from Keynesian theory when he tried to balance the budget in 1937 and essentially stopped the stimulus too early you don't have much of a case.

When you can factor that in and revisit the period you may have something.

Anonymous said...

Apparently, the voters are awfully confused. They claim to be looking for national leadership, but all they ever elect is politicians.

The fact is, none of our leaders is trained for the jobs they acquire through campaign fraud. They may claim to have a “plan” for this, or a “solution” for that . . . but the truth is, neither FDR nor BHO were trained in economics, or statesmanship, or leadership.

Note that prior to World War I, most diplomats were the sons of high-placed statesman. In the absence of academies to teach young men their craft, they learned about diplomacy through internships in embassies or in offices of the departments of state. What happened in 1914 proves that the system for producing statesmen was seriously flawed.

Today, we have people like FDR who “learned” how to be politicians (not leaders) through internships provided by lower offices . . . governorships and appointed offices in the bureaucracy. BHO was a state-senator, and then a US Senator for 173 days; if anything, his internship was the “short course.” History tells us that Roosevelt did almost everything wrong in the face of dire economic circumstances (American investors brought upon themselves); that his inadequacies resulted in a worldwide economic depression that helped to create World War II. Alas, since Americans detest history, they will be forced to relive the not-so-good old days . . . and as in the past, they will have done it to themselves by electing a man who is singularly unqualified to be an American president.

Ducky's here said...

Paul Krugman is a strong supporter of Geithner?

What parallel universe are you reporting from? Krugman is firmly on record supporting a LARGER stimulus.

Ducky's here said...

"but the truth is, neither FDR nor BHO were trained in economics..."


Neither was Ronald Raygun or George W. Bush.

But their economic advisers are trained. It's a little depressing right now that Obama seems to be listening to Larry Summers, a Clinton bubble boy, rather than Paul Volcker.

cube said...

I'm so sick of the gloom and doom. I'm also sick of the chiken littles running around screaming about the sky falling. After a while, it just falls on my deaf ears.

Yeah, dumbass, incompetent elites are running this great nation. Does that mean we have to LET them run it into the ground?

I say NO!

Z said...

Thanks, Tony! (answered you at your place!)

Hermit, that made me laugh out loud!!! REALLY good one!!

JM....was that hysterical!?
Glad to hear you're so much better!

Ducky, I didn't write this, an expert did. I was surprised Krugman left the plantation for that sentence, too. Maybe you might look 'revisit' the times, too...nobody says she's wrong and you're right.

Mustang; Mr. Z has been talking about this, In Europe one doesn't just get an ambassadorship, for example, because they gave a lot of money, one studies diplomacy, has lesser posts, and then moves up and KNOWS SOMETHING. You make a good point.

Cube..sorry, I know what you mean about gloom/doom (it's why I posted the snow scenes taken in Germany yesterday) but I know you appreciate our staying informed.

I'm listening to Laura Ingraham this morning and she's got a Seattle blogger on who's a Conservative and a theater arts person. She said the libs dropped her for her viewpoints but Republicans in that same theater came out of the woodwork...she says blogging's okay, BUT WE HAVE TO SEE EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE. I believe she's right. We have to do something more than sit here and type and feel badly..

This country deserves better than what's happening...
I heard some money-types on TV saying it'll take an economy TEN TIMES stronger than our normal one to bring us out of the debt we're accruing; in other words; never happen
this has to STOP

Ducky's here said...

Yeah, it has to stop but as far as I can tell R's don't have any interest in stopping it.

Look at consumer price reports. Prices are down. Deflationary spiral? About the worst situation you can have and it has to be stopped. You have to stabilize the housing market and you have to admit that the banking system is insolvent.

Yet all I hear from the right is "tax cuts". If you can explain why swapping private for public debt is the key I'd listen but I hear nothing.

Z said...

Prices are down because nobody's buying, Ducky.
Do you feel that Obama's "Catastrophe" "Much worse before it gets better" and "if we don't Do this, we may NEVER recover" are good for consumer confidence?

If the gov't sent us $10K, I'd be hiding it away with the threats O's promising there....SPEND IT, ARE YOU NUTS? THINGS MIGHT GET WORSE.

ONe solution is a CARD....like a gift card from the gov't which MUST be spent somewhere to get the money at all.

highboy said...

The government needs to stay the hell out of it. Nothing will fix the economy but the economy itself. Its cyclical, and the more the government interferes and tries to spend money it doesn't have, the worse it will get.

Ducky's here said...

If the gov't sent us $10K, I'd be hiding it away with the threats O's promising there....SPEND IT, ARE YOU NUTS? THINGS MIGHT GET WORSE.

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Or you might pay down debt. Either way it ain't stimulating which is why it's best to have the government do it because they will spend.

On a macro level there isn't a lot of difference between government and private spending.

Ducky's here said...

Oh z, the problem with the "gift card" idea is that it really doesn't generate growth.

That's the key to a Keynesian stimulus. You fiance the current deficit through the future growth.

Buying down inventory might give a temporary charge but once the stimulus is spent then there ain't no more and we just start the cycle over. Start it rather quickly.

Run out and buy another flat screen or invest in high speed rail, solar research, medical advances?

Z said...

No, no, Ducky. NOBODY wants to go buy anything now with the doom and gloom obama talked us into swallowing this horrid package with.
NOBODY.

You'd be crazy to take any money and spend now with the dire warnings.

At least a gift card would have had people having to spend. As it is, the Gov't will be sending checks which'll go under the mattress. a GREAT help, huh? Not

Anonymous said...

Or you might pay down debt. Either way it ain't stimulating which is why it's best to have the government do it because they will spend.

Let’s see if I understand the logic in your contention. The United States’ debt is already 38% of GDP; in order to pay off that debt, our government should incur even greater debt. How does spending borrowed money, sans the revenues to pay the principle and accrued interest, substantially change this economic model?

Of course, the underlying question is one that irreconcilably divides us: what article in the U. S. Constitution proclaims that the government has a right to diminish our individual wealth, in exchange for extraordinary national debt? What evidence can you cite as proof that Congress or any administration since 1910 has even once accomplished anything extra-constitutional that has benefitted the American people equally – other than to keep them alive and free?

Up until the 20th Century, America's success has been because of hardworking citizens and capitalists. Since then, our success as a nation is in spite of government, not because of it.

Anonymous said...

Leftist govts everywhere are doing the same thing, screaming that the end is nigh. Back when Bush was running things, the left were quick to dismiss things like 9/11 as social-justice, policing issues and that there really is no islamic threat, that it's just made up by righties to control the stupid masses.

Now that they have the power, isn't it funny how they are guilty of doing the same thing. They keep screaming that it's all going down the crapper because they want little resistance from the masses as they take more of our money and drag us down the path of socialism. Fortunately for them, most are happy to be become dependent on anyone else, including the state, no matter the cost.

Z said...

Right, MK...it's like some PLAN. Is this Bilderburg or Trilanteral Comm. work? it's smelling like that to me..more and more.
SUDDENLY, the world's economy's collapsing so badly we might have to meld...solve this TOGETHER (Tra lee tra la..) GOD FORBIG. ONE WORLD ORDER.

Mustang, you write so American, so pure, clear and true. It touches me. was going to highlight my favorite line in your comment here but I couldn't find a favorite...you're so right, so ...

Right.

David Wyatt said...

B.

Anonymous said...

"but the truth is, neither FDR nor BHO were trained in economics..."

Neither was Ronald Raygun or George W. Bush."


Ducky, President Reagan did study economics in college. I believe he had his degree in economics.


Now, how are we mere mortals supposed to go out and spend money to help the economy grow, when the dunderheads in Washington have approved every liberal program on their wish list for decades. Who's going to pay for those? We are. Taxes. Can't spend that.

Here in California and other states, they're taxing everything in sight. Here, our sales tax will go up to 9 1/2%.

Plus an income tax surcharge just because they can, and they're doubling or tripling the car tax (can't make up their minds, so many taxes so little time)! and on and on. Who's going to pay for that? We are! More money we can't spend.

Our state refund will be an IOU, paper which will be sent to our bank and credited to our account when the state releases the money. Right! I won't hold my breath. Oops, can't spend that either.

Of course businesses will be hit with these taxes as well. Uh oh, prices will go up.
Hmmmm, can't afford that.

Oh, and we'll be paying for Acorn's 2 billion dollars. That's stimulus for the Democrat Party. We can't spend that.

To top this off, both my children 48 and 51 years old, lost 45% of their 401k's. How much spending do you think they'll be doing? Their state refunds will be IOU's too!

But, hell, we'll continue to make sure to subsidize mortgages for people who can't afford them. Somehow they matter more.

I guess all this is "building the economy from the bottom up"! What a joke.

Finally, my grandson who is 20 and in college, works part time, takes 16 units in school, is going to be stuck with paying for this boondoggle all his life. Yes, the new BHO War on Poverty, will be paid for by todays young people like my grandson.

For what, people too lazy to get off their duff and pay their own way? Are they somehow more special than my grandson? No way!!

So, Ducky you keep defending this while we go broke paying for it. And you know, what you haven't realized, is that the powers that be don't give a damn about us. No, not the poor either, they want us all dependent on them. It's called Power. That's their bottom line, and always has been.

The stimulus, like global warming, is just a ruse.

Pris

Z said...

AMEN, Mrs Priscilla...sing it, sista!

WE'RE GOING TO BE PAYING HOW MUCH SALES TAX?? ARE YOU KIDDING MEEEEE??
what?

elmers brother said...

one has to wonder if all the doom and gloomers are the same ones raking in the dough because they're betting against the market...


something to think about considering in California home sales are up over 84%

Ducky's here said...

Of course, the underlying question is one that irreconcilably divides us: what article in the U. S. Constitution proclaims that the government has a right to diminish our individual wealth, in exchange for extraordinary national debt?

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Section 8 - Powers of Congress

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

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That good enough?

Ducky's here said...

Oh, and we'll be paying for Acorn's 2 billion dollars. That's stimulus for the Democrat Party. We can't spend that.

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Prove it. It's been debunked so many times at "factcheck" that you really should be embarrassed at this point.

Z said...

Okay, Ducky....tell us about Acorn. We'll wait.