Sunday, July 11, 2010
PROOF of Democrats stealing elections
Don't stop watching because the first thirty seconds talks about the Panther intimidation, it quickly tells us MUCH more...PLEASE WATCH THIS....TO THE END, you won't be sorry you did, but you'll be sorry for our country. Please watch this Democrat (Grandpa was a Dem governor of Massachusetts) tell America that Obama's people stole 2008 from Hillary Clinton; Facts, Details....all here. She'd gone to disprove the rumors in Texas and found herself immersed in the undeniable truth. All fraud has to stop. NEVER has a documentary been made like this and ignored for the two years since it was made. Imagine that this Democrat can't get any interviews with CNN or the networks, and that the DNC wanted nothing to do with it..."The DNC didn't want to know?" Who cares? But, imagine if a Republican had rung the bell on her party's stealing of elections? Think the mainstream media and networks would have maybe MENTIONED it? (Oh, and for those who'll be linking here like crazy people to rumors of Republican fraud from moveon and Huffington...most Americans put our country first...we're tired of tit for tat; ALL fraud MUST STOP.)
z
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I remember when the left was going on about voting machine fraud, remember blackboxvoting.org.
Well, that stuff got on a few of the left outlets and there was an initial flurry but it was challenged by rational leftists and to the dump.
I'm afraid I don't hold that kind of hope for conspiracy theorists on the right. All it takes is a Fox clip or something on the Glenn Beck show and the right wing herd panics and stampedes. Then they stamp their feet and throw a tantrum because they have "proof".
This nation is in deep sneakers.
THEY ARE getting away with sheer crime Z! ..ugh! HOPE YOURE HAVIN A SUPER WEEKEND! :-)
This is an important Post Z,
It has to be widely known just what the country is dealing with regarding this thugocracy. When one goes to a polling place to vote, he/she, doesn't have to tell anyone who he's voting for.
You're not supposed to wear campaign buttons or campaign literature at a polling place anyway, so don't.
If I was hassled I'd walk in and vote and call the police. If anyone touched me, it would be an assault and I'd follow it through.
This is reminiscent of a Chavez, Castro, or Saddam Hussein. Not an American Presidential candidate. It's thuggery pure and simple. So unAmerican as to be a third world dictator's tactic.
Now, to those who laughed off the New Black Panther episode, tell me it's an aberration. Tell me it's an isolated incident. Tell me your vaunted Obama is not a pretender, or a wannabe dictator.
I'd say, as bad as corruption is, militant criminal actions to prevent voters from their civil right to vote are a level above that in how serious the ramifications of this are.
The Clintons should have exposed this and they didn't. They should have used their clout with the press and made their case, so as to nip this in the bud. But, they didn't.
They considered themselves, not their country, and Hillary became Secy of State. They became part of the problem at the expense of their own constituency, and their country.
This puts our country's promise of freedom, to be hanging in the balance, and if it's a fight the thugs want, it's a fight they'll get. We will not be deterred. The American people will not stand for this.
Pris
Yep, this is typical of Ducky. Now here we have a woman who was raised a democrat and has been a loyal democrat all her adult life, but she must be a conservative plant because no self-respecting American-hater would ever speak out against Ducky’s filthy lying president. Also, since she’s lying, notice how typical it is that Republicans believe her unverified asssertions.
“Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage. If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counter-side... every positive has its negative (or, tell a lie long enough and it becomes the truth).” —Saul Alinsky, American Hater
Save it Ducky. This is a democrat who investigated this. You can't blame this on the right.
Your party is responsible for motor voter which is an invitation for fraud.
Absentee ballots are handed out like candy. Another invitation for fraud.
Your party is drooling for illegal aliens to have a sped up naturalization process, which Clinton and Gore orchestrated once before, years ago.
Now, none of this is good enough for this thug in the WH. Radicals are in charge, and the dems in Congress have made themselves irrelevant by giving over unparalleled power to this President and his radical comrades.
I think they'll do anything to win, that's how desperate they are.
There is no longer a Democrat Party, they're owned by the far left, of which you're one, and you are not a mainstream Democrat.
Rational leftists? I never met one of those.
I'll tell you what it takes to come to a rational conclusion about the thugocracy. It takes connecting the dots. Putting the pieces of the puzzle together until a picture emerges.
It takes the ability to SEE the big picture, you just have to want to and you know it.
Obama told us in his own words what we faced with him in the Wh, and his voters either chose to ignore it, or were too busy swooning, and clueless, thanks to the weak knee'd media.
You're really pathetic Ducky, you're so indoctrinated you're beyond hope.
Pris
The left can't stand when their lies and treacheries are exposed, therefore they must do whatever they can to disparage the person or people exposing them. This would include eating their own like wolves. Apparently, some duck species participate in such practices as well. Truth leaves a terrible taste in the mouth, doesn't it, quacker?
Ducky, please, you'd sound so much more on things if you'd watch the video.
"rational leftists"? And this woman isn't, right? (keep trying....this nation's almost rid of your bunch; I've said for a year it'll take Dems to expose the Left...Gaston, Carville, Cadell, Schoen...it's coming. THANK GOD!
Hi, WHT...I wonder how far Gaston will go with this? Maybe they won't get away with it? Having a quiet, restful weekend, thanks..same to you xx
Pris, Mustang, Leslie... I think Ducky had to watch the video. If he did watch them or read my posts, I'm thinking he'd sound a little more credible; how anybody can deny this video is beyond comprehension.
By the way..REPUBLICAN VOTER FRAUD; imagine ANY Republican getting away with it? But, heck, they're still saying Bush stole the election from Gore. :-)
That was interesting.
Video brought out some things I'd suspected about the Clinton "defeat".
~ Anyone else consider that the entire election was orchestrated specifically to put Clinton in the Sec of State position? I expect she's doing plenty of global damage from there while we all carry on about the President.
Maybe I'm totally alone on this, but I also figured the Republicans deliberately offered a particularly unspectacular candidate to ensure a Democrat victory. It was time to pass the torch back in order to keep citizens from catching on to the game.
~The Democrat woman is a good example of the danger of blindly supporting either major party. Everyone wants to believe their own representative is on the "right" side of the issue. But unquestioning party-line loyalty can offer a nasty surprise from either direction.
H
I remember something coming out about fraud against Hillary voters at the time, but it was a passing blip on the screen and quickly forgotten. I'm glad to see this finally getting some serious attention. Not serious enough of course, but a start.
Z, I don’t want you to misunderstand the point I was making. I do believe that either party is capable of skullduggery; it is why I trust neither. But I think conservatives are more likely to evaluate politicians critically than are leftists —who are as lambs led to the slaughter. But you are correct: not only does Ducky refuse to read the posts before he comments on them, he lacks credibility because he is completely irrational.
Faith, yes, I'm glad this is finally getting out. But, you know, Mustang's right...she'll be painted as a liar.
Let's hope that her Democrat friends will also wake up and, knowing her apparent integrity, and (hopefully?) believing in our SYSTEM more than their PARTY AGENDA, just might do something about this.
No, Heather, I think Gaston isn't so party-oriented or she'd not have produced this documentary. I admire her greatly for having such Democrat roots and speaking out for her country's voting rights over her political party.
And yes, I have said this for months...McCain was pegged to lose. I'll never stop believing that. Always did, always will.
It IS a 'game' so all good Conservatives can do is push hard for what we believe........that's the only chance this country has because the powers that be are so obviously afraid of that (Tea Partiers, etc.)
GOP endorsed candidates scare me, suddenly. We need to kick out the Dem and Rep machines.
A media that's not telling the truth to our fellow citizens even scares me more.
Well, mustang, I didn't see your last comment till I had printed mine, so you can see I didn't misunderstand you and that we're on the same page again.
Conservatives believe strongly in the dreams of the founding fathers; we mostly evaluate politicians based on those dreams.
No, Heather, I think Gaston isn't so party-oriented or she'd not have produced this documentary. I admire her greatly for having such Democrat roots and speaking out for her country's voting rights over her political party.
Hi Z,
I was not saying she personally is blindly supporting anything. I was referring to her apparent shock and dismay at discovering that her party could possibly be full of corruption.
She woke up. Many others on both sides of the aisle have not.
GOP endorsed candidates scare me, suddenly. We need to kick out the Dem and Rep machines.
I wonder if that would resolve some things. Still trying to determine whether Americans have the courage to step up and admit we've been played for fools and are willing to work to turn things around even if it means dismantling most of our current system in order to root out the corruption.
H
Heather, with our hard left, even having finally awakened shows this Dem wasn't entirely asleep..that's what I suggest!
FOX often has on Dem pollsters Pat Cadell and Doug Schoen; they are honest, they are open minded, and they see our problems from the viewpoint of AMericans not hard-line party people.
Obviously, I'm partial to the Right but I love those two guys for their honesty and humility. I've met Pat Cadell and spoken to him and he's a terrific guy.
See, when Dems speak intelligently, sound informed by ALL sides, and come down on America's side, even agreeing with MY thoughts on certain points, I always joke here about how "I hate them" because their open mindedness and fairness must force me to listen to everything they say more than I would otherwise. I give their opinions on things I mostly don't agree with longer shrift than I do harder nosers.
as for your comment "willing to work to turn things around even if it means dismantling most of our current system in order to root out the corruption."....something else I"ve been saying here..we might have to do this BUT we haven't the younger generation to shore us up in the rebuilding. This won't take a short time.
I often also say that had the Leftwingers waited 10 years to crown Obama (had the Bilderburgs waited, I should say, perhaps?), they'd have skated through healthcare faster and easier than they did, amnesty, ending nukes, destroying us through our GREENING, etc...because the good, solid, true blue American ex Vets, and the types of Americans who'd rather die than ignore our Constitution would have been dead and they'd have had a much easier time with the younger Americans who have been so contaminated by their schooling and PC to prefer the NANNY STATE.
Major...I hope it doesn't come to violence.
Was this intimidation widespread enough to actually steal the Democratic nomination? Why did the Democratic Party stand by and let this happen? If Obama and his campaign really did steal the nomination, why did Hillary take a job in the Obama Administration?
Did this happen in the general election, too?
If it did, then it was successful in electing Barack Obama for one reason and one reason only:
NOT ENOUGH VOTERS WENT TO THE POLLS!
The way to defeat this criminality is with high voter turnout. And if you are threatened at the polls, should some damn courage and fight back. Refuse to be intimidated, force the bullies hand and make him back down. Will there be some risk of bodily harm? Probably. "Live free or die" my friends.
There are way too many of us and way too few of them. Strength in numbers, my friends.
"whether Americans have the courage to step up and admit we've been played for fools and are willing to work to turn things around even if it means dismantling most of our current system in order to root out the corruption."
Sorry....but...you've got to be kidding, right? Do you think for one minute that either reigning party would ever turn on themselves? It's POWER...it's not about the truth! The truth is that not one of them would admit that the system is not only flawed but totally corrupt! Do you think anyone of them would ever step down for the preservation of honesty, integrity of the continuation of this Republic?
Do you think anyone of them cares a rats ass about you...or me...or anyone else but themselves? Look at the perks they voted and handed to themselves. Would you...in their position...give up the pensions, healthcare, security that this position of power, influence and prestige affords them?
This is why...this video proves what we've all suspected...that this democratic republic has failed. That the vote has been nullified by thugs, cons, crooks ( both R's and D's ) to point that any Revolution must be seriously considered.
Otherwise....it's all over. And actually after seeeing and suspecting this...it is over.
Major
I always joke here about how "I hate them" because their open mindedness and fairness must force me to listen to everything they say more than I would otherwise.
LOL!
I understand what your saying, Z. I've always suspected there are probably a lot of intelligent, decent Democrats (and Republicans, for that matter) around. It's just hard sometimes to break free from an ingrained thought pattern that X party is "my" party and if *I* vote outside it's unsatisfactory offerings then *I* am some sort of traitor to the ideals "my" party supposedly stands for.
we haven't the younger generation to shore us up in the rebuilding.
I suppose we shall see.
There are a lot of homeschooling families who take seriously the problems we've got. We might be considered "minority", but the older generation doesn't stand entirely alone.
H
Major,
Do you think for one minute that either reigning party would ever turn on themselves? It's POWER...it's not about the truth!
I didn't say anything about expecting any of the high-ranking Republicrats to step down voluntarily. Of course this is about power.
I wondered whether the American citizens to whom these people answer are actually prepared to take on the beast that's threatening to destroy us.
Why are you yelling at me?
Heather
"Major...I hope it doesn't come to violence."
How else could it ever be? When you have too many elements in our society that are willing to use it? Panthers, commies, anarchists, dems, polsters, polling places? Those who immediately riot over and take to the streets over any imagined infraction over their "rights"? Including illegals who have the audacity to mock everyone of us with their shit stained flag that they so willing fled?
Or:"There are so many things it can’t be: Obama on illegal immigration, Obama on the oil spill, Obama on the Constitution, Obama on private industry takeovers, Obama on Islamism and Israel, the Obama campaign against our best allies, the Obama Reset-and-Suck-Up Policy with our most cynical opponents, the Obama soak-the-taxpayer, every-shade-of-Green-but-honest-profit pork-barrel spending extravaganza."
Please...the train wreck has already occurred. Now it's up to US to clean up the relentless shit that happened to our freedom...our constitution and our Republic. How much more are we going to allow and stand by while the mutts...the illegals...the islamo-nuts...the racists shouting "crackers and kill the white babies"...how much more? How many more racial slurs will we tolerate before these scumbags mean..YOU AND ME? They are at the Gate...they are at your front door and back door...they do mean to rid this country of you.
Wake up and know your enemies. Alan West explains it well...if you care to listen.
Major
Major, do you think most Tea Partiers are at least more on your wavelength?
Heather, I can't imagine anybody voting for something they didn't agree with because they'd feel treacherous toward the party they're a member of, can you?
If I loved Hillary, I'd CERTAINLY have voted for HIllary.
I have to vote for the person I admire the most, whose actions have impressed me the most, whose character, or what I know of it, is most decent in MY opinion......Like it or not, more Republicans fit that bill than do Dems.
I doubt one reader here would vote for a Republican they couldn't stand out of party loyalty. NOW, having said that, many of us had to in the last election because we couldn't take, for example, Obama's stances on most anything, or his character issues/past/lying, even more than we couldn't take, for example, McCain's! That's the sad state of affairs we're in today in America!
As far as homeschooling, I agree. those families seem to be teaching their kids to love this country, pimples and all, and hopefully teaching them how they can make it better WITH the help of the constitution...but, the amount is miniscule in comparison to our public schools and the incredible indoctrination I hear about first hand.
What I'm sad about is I read Conservative Teachers here who blog and THEY wouldn't proselytize if their lives depended on it "I'm a Conservative so I want the kids to learn ALL sides"..How can we say "NO! I admire YOU so I think you SHOULD indoctrinate!" We can't...!! Yet, that's the way things are! (for the most part)
I'm quite sure there are liberal teachers who'd never indoctrinate, either. Matter of fact, I know that for a fact, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgZppLvjvaE&feature=related
Allan West...apparently on jihadists and islam. I haven't taken the time to listen but he's never disappointed me.
"Why are you yelling at me? "
Was I? Or being strident...as any vet would be. I've lost some of my hearing due to my service...so I talk louder than those...who might not understand the serverity, the importance...of fighting and killing your enemies. Your taxes paid for me...now here I am.
"do you think most Tea Partiers are at least more on your wavelength?
Hell yes. Bu we know the tactics of the corrupt media. I think they have a clear understanding that the weeny media conscripts, the dishonesty of salivating over any "perceived" infraction of civil discourse ( which they never apply to panthers, Shabazza's, looters, muggers, rapists and G20 terrorists...Ohhh.... or muslims either ) to discredit honest god loving Americans who have served and love their country...is first and foremost on their minds. Like looking for a sign with Obamma Hussein with a moustache. Or garbage...while the looters trash cars and businesses and they never condemn it. But...Jesus Christ....find a flag that says..."Don't Tread On Me"...and they think they've found a violent revolutionary waiting to bomb thew Pentagon ( like the muslims already did ).
We need to fight back...otherwise....we're just "teabaggers" ( a pejorative ) and ineffective, fat, bloated, loud mouths. MSM...not me.
Major
Major, remember a few months back when Pelosi and DHS's Napolitano got their knickers in twists over Christian White guys in Minnesota's mountains (or wherever!) and how we need to have them on terror lists and keep a watch on them?
Odd that they can hear a Black Panther leader say KILL WHITE CRACKER BABIES, I HATE EVERY "IOTA" OF WHITE PEOPLE and they're not screaming from the rafters about that, huh?
:-)
can you BELIEVE we're facing race relation problems again like in the late Sixties? What the HECK as Obama unleashed??
Z, did you take it down? There's no video there now.
yes, it's there..wait a second, Deborah, it sometimes takes a bit.
let me know.
Sorry, it's not loading. However, I think I found it here: http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm
If it's the same thing - shocking! (but not surprising). Ballot stuffing, voter intimidation, harassment, erasing voters from the roll (happened to me in the last election actually), purposely changing affiliations against voter's wishes, lying, pushy lying, and aggressive lying.
Bartel Bull was right - Obama's a hustler. You'll always get a few bad apples. This suffuses his organization. We've seen it on display for the last 18 months. What trash.
(And I thought it was bad when the Kennedys denied their mega-supporter Sinatra an invite to the inauguration after he carried their water to his union buddies in Illinois 'cos it might look bad.)
Please, anyone, if you're having trouble seeing the video, let me know.
Sorry about that Deborah, it's loading fine for me...
I appreciate your taking the time to link it here in case others might have the same problem.
As Hannity says "Imagine if 2 klanners in white robes and weapons stood outside a voting precinct and said 'if you're not voting for George Wallace, you'd better leave'? Imagine the HELL to pay?
our media on para-military clothing, night sticks and "if you're voting for Hillary go home" don't cover the story? WOW
Major,
Was I? Or being strident...as any vet would be. I've lost some of my hearing due to my service...so I talk louder than those...who might not understand the serverity, the importance...of fighting and killing your enemies. Your taxes paid for me...now here I am.
I understand passion concerning one's position. And I've noticed you tend to be rather forceful when commenting. You are who you are and I'm not asking you to tiptoe around me.
I just didn't see what I'd said that was particularly at odds with your perspective.
If I misread your intentions, I offer an apology.
H
Z
Heather, I can't imagine anybody voting for something they didn't agree with because they'd feel treacherous toward the party they're a member of, can you?....
I doubt one reader here would vote for a Republican they couldn't stand out of party loyalty. NOW, having said that, many of us had to in the last election...
I wasn't suggesting that anyone would look critically at a terrible candidate, acknowledge that he is evil, and then vote for him just because he has a specific label.
I'm thinking more along the line that party loyalty often blinds people to the very possibility that a candidate might actually be really, really bad.
People are funny that way and even really intelligent folks can make emotional attachments that interfere with our ability to clearly reason.
This can be demonstrated concerning brand-loyalty at the supermarket. If a child grows up eating a certain brand of canned soup, and has attached fond memories to said brand of soup, he often will remain "stuck" choosing that soup over a more nutritious, better tasting gourmet option. This, in spite of the fact that the quality of product has steadily declined over the years.
The blindness isn't always because he's stupid and can't understand that certain ingredients in "his" canned soup are now second-rate or even potentially harmful. His stubbornness could be chalked up to unconscious conditioning which doesn't allow him to readily recognize just how bad the canned soup has become. His loving mother always prepared it for him. He's always eaten it without noticing any violently bad reaction...Even the slight headache from the added chemicals has become an accepted part of the overall experience.
The handicap can be overcome, but it might take a lot of work.
See what I'm saying?
Heather
Heather, we're not saying different things. I only suggest that we don't have much choice today.
If I go to the supermarket and there are only two kinds of tomato soup, I may not like either of them but I settle on one because I don't have a better choice. It's the way things go these days.
I know very few people who really liked McCain, they saw his drawbacks loud and clear, most of us saw drawbacks in Bush, too...but to vote for Obama?
I gave him a look, I have to admit to getting teary eyed watching the Black kids at the Dem Convention with tears running down their faces when he was formally announced.......but, he stands for NOTHING I admire, so...I'm stuck with mcCain Soup!
Heather, we're not saying different things. I only suggest that we don't have much choice today.
OK. I definitely agree with you concerning the lack of options.
Sometimes it's difficult for me to tell whether my thought is being added to or refuted.
It's fine with me if you do disagree. I just wanted to be sure I hadn't mis-communicated what I meant.
:)
Heather, I'm saying that I hope very few are as hard headed as you suggest and that if we vote for a man of our party whom we really don't admire it's because he's our only choice, not because of any 'handicap' or 'blindness' as you suggest.
Are we biased toward our side? You bet. Because our 'side', as I said, better represents our opinions and our hopes for America.
OK.
If I go to the supermarket and there are only two kinds of tomato soup, I may not like either of them but I settle on one because I don't have a better choice. It's the way things go these days.
I couldn't resist offering that there is a third option...
If the store has nothing worth buying, it's always okay to instead purchase the ingredients to make your own soup from scratch.
That is the type of thing that I was wondering if Americans have the courage to do--and, to a degree, I *think* echoes some of Major's sentiment.
Like you, I hope and pray the mess can be resolved peacefully--with our hearts set on doing what is right, at the voting booth, and holding accountable those who have disregarded the laws of our country.
H
More lies from Fox News. The Bush Administrations dropped the investigation and the changes.
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