"We wake up one morning and we have rights, we wake up another morning and we have NONE." (NONE?)
What do you think of this situation? Is it not a constitutional right to voice an opinion and financially support it without getting black listed or otherwise publicly insulted?
Mormons are being hit the hardest because they financially supported California's Proposition 8 which says marriage should stay between a man and a woman. The irony is that the gay groups are talking about boycotting anything Mormon, including Utah, including the Sundance Film Festival! (Robert Redford will LOVE this!) Black churches, which also very heavily supported Prop 8, are not being targeted. I guess it's not cool to attack Black churches, but Mormons are fair game?
Some gays are questioning these tactics, but it's obvious many are for it. For these groups on the video and others, it's "Ya, we KNOW we had an election and the people have spoken, but the people are WRONG and WE will show you and YOU will suffer!" what? Wait, are gays OUTING people now? We're going from Gay BASHING (nice that we've moved on from that) to Gay BASHERS? wow.
So, where do we Americans go when we see liberal groups going to these extremes against the majority who voted because they don't like what the majority decided? What can be done? Do these people see NO irony in that THEY're supposed to be the BIG PROGRESSIVES? Don't progressives understand the constitution?
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No they don't understand the Constitution.
Pelosi said a couple days ago that the people of California obviously simply didn't understand in voting for Prop 8 that they were voting against a Constitutional freedom.
I've been wondering just exactly what we ARE supposed to do? I'm sure we're to oppose all this craziness but I'm not sure HOW we're to oppose it. Picketing and protesting and writing our congressmen or what?
For the record, what Pelosi said:
"Unfortunately, I think people thought they were making a statement about what their view of same-sex marriage was," the San Francisco Democrat said. "I don't know if it was clear that this meant that we are amending the Constitution to diminish freedom in our state."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/08/MNE0140996.DTL
the extremism lies on those who wish to redefine marriage
let them protest
it's their right
but don't expect the people to change their mind when it comes to this issue
the progressives are aborting themselves out of the next election anyway
you know Z tolerance is only for what they deem!..spit!
Religious groups need to boycott San Francisco!
There are a lot more of us, than there are of them.
I sent the governator an email asking him to accept the will of the people and to use his law enforcement powers to protect churches etc. from this brand of domestic terrorism.
Sad and pathetic.
Makes me wanna barf. I swear, I could never live in SF. I love to visit, but I couldn't live there.
The anger from the radical gay groups is repulsive.
Socialists are wont to confuse "Constitutional Freedom" with "anarchy." Pelosi may be the least qualified person ever to serve as Speaker; in fact, I'm not even sure she's qualified to be an American.
I'd like to remind everyone that "gays" (whatever that means) are not in a good position to claim 'poor me,' when in fact is has been their activision that opened this can of worms to begin with. How stupid. If you want to disgust everyone by having "gay feather parades" in the downtown area, don't be later amazed that people are disgusted.
How about this: we ignore homosexuals and concentrate more on saving unborn infants. Oh wait, Pelosi is against that, too.
It happened about an hour from where I live. They are outraged that they can't control how think. They are all for Democracy as long as they control it.
I called Governor Schwartzenegger's office and told his staffer I objected to his urging the court to overturn our vote.
I said, "what do we citizens like me have to do, take to the streets to be recognized?"
I said, "Why should we bother to vote, we'll just go out and throw a crowd tantrum".
"Anarchy seems to be the only thing that get's results". The staffer simply thanked me for my comments.
I wish thousands would make this call and get the Governor to sit up and take notice.
The constitution never mentioned marriage. The Court opened that door when they overturned our last vote, and made it a right. We voted to amend it. What recourse do law-abiding citizens have when an activist court makes decisions they have no business making.
Marriage is a state issue, it requires a license. Those who compare it to the cause of equal rights for black people are off the mark. One who is black does not need a license to be free and black. The comparison is silly.
Pris
Corral them all into Massachussetts, where 9 out of 10 people are gay and the remaining one couldn't respond to the survey because his mouth was full.
Oh, Pris..you ought to see my Black girlfriend when she hears gay marriage talked about as a CIVIL RIGHTS issue....she goes ballistic!
Beamish, beamish, beamish....:0)
Shoprat.....this was in San Francisco!??
Numbers don't mean much in our leftist America. The majority no longer rules, PC rules whether we like it or not. All it takes is a noisy or thuggish leftist few, or just a court decision, or the influence of the leftist convictions of a wacky governor or speaker of the house, to overturn the will of the people these days.
Last I checked gays still had all the same rights they had the Monday before the election, and this is going to bite them in the fanny, big time.
I was talking about a similar event that happened in Lansing, Michigan this weekend.
shoprat...Did Michigan vote against gay marriage this time, too? How close was it??
a group in Michigan went to a church and disrupted the service...it was pretty awful
Oh, I forgot, Elbro...that awful attack inside a church was in Michigan, wasn't it. TMW has it on her blog. (The Merry Widow on my blogroll, if anybody wants to see it..it's QUITE a story)
Shoprat..sorry, I forgot that was there..
Boycott San Francisco!
So it's a boycott. Fact is that gays have learned to use the tactic effectively in some limited circumstances.
I haven't read any criticism here of knuckle draggers like Focus on the Family who call for boycotts frequently.
Double standard, yawn.
Utah is probably glad they're boycotting their state.
Gays lashing out violently = Constitutional right
Speaking out about homosexuality being immoral = hate crime/speech
The equations seem unbalanced...hmmmmm.
You lost. Most people don't understand or want to understand your lifestyle. It's unnatural.
Get over it, put your panties back on and quit your tantrums.
Boycotts are one thing duhkkky....disrupting a church service with vulgarity, mailing suspicious material and blacklisting contributors etc. is another
Titus...no comments on your blog. I wish I could talk to you about this...
Super stuff on there!
Thanks for coming by.
Your last line of your comment killed me! Good one.
Elbro..Exactly.
TonyC...very good comments.
You know.....I couldn't help wondering if bringing LA rush hour traffic to its knees twice did much to help the cause.
I don't care WHAT people think of boycotts, marches, etc. that's been done for years and it'll continue, I'm sure (well, until that civilian corps of obama's comes and puts us down?)...
The tapes I've heard of people threatening those who dared have a different opinion than the gays, the nasty condemnations left on message machines, are horrid, they're absolutely incredible... this is WRONG and scary in America.
Plato, "Republic"
By degrees the anarchy finds a way into private houses, and ends by getting among the animals and infecting them.
How do you mean?
I mean that the father grows accustomed to descend to the level of his sons and to fear them, and the son is on a level with his father, he having no respect or reverence for either of his parents; and this is his freedom, and metic is equal with the citizen and the citizen with the metic (foreign non-citizen), and the stranger is quite as good as either.
Yes, he said, that is the way.
And these are not the only evils, I said--there are several lesser ones: In such a state of society the master fears and flatters his scholars, and the scholars despise their masters and tutors; young and old are all alike; and the young man is on a level with the old, and is ready to compete with him in word or deed; and old men condescend to the young and are full of pleasantry and gaiety; they are loth to be thought morose and authoritative, and therefore they adopt the manners of the young.
Quite true, he said.
The last extreme of popular liberty is when the slave bought with money, whether male or female, is just as free as his or her purchaser; nor must I forget to tell of the liberty and equality of the two sexes in relation to each other.
Why not, as Aeschylus says, utter the word which rises to our lips?
That is what I am doing, I replied; and I must add that no one who does not know would believe, how much greater is the liberty which the animals who are under the dominion of man have in a democracy than in any other State: for truly, the she-dogs, as the proverb says, are as good as their she-mistresses, and the horses and asses have a way of marching along with all the rights and dignities of freemen; and they will run at anybody who comes in their way if he does not leave the road clear for them: and all things are just ready to burst with liberty.
When I take a country walk, he said, I often experience what you describe. You and I have dreamed the same thing.
And above all, I said, and as the result of all, see how sensitive the citizens become; they chafe impatiently at the least touch of authority and at length, as you know, they cease to care even for the laws, written or unwritten; they will have no one over them.
Yes, he said, I know it too well.
Such, my friend, I said, is the fair and glorious beginning out of which springs tyranny.
Glorious indeed, he said. But what is the next step?
The ruin of oligarchy is the ruin of democracy; the same disease magnified and intensified by liberty overmasters democracy--the truth being that the excessive increase of anything often causes a reaction in the opposite direction; and this is the case not only in the seasons and in vegetable and animal life, but above all in forms of government.
True.
The excess of liberty, whether in States or individuals, seems only to pass into excess of slavery.
Yes, the natural order.
And so tyranny naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme form of liberty?
As we might expect.
Hi, Alice...isn't that horrid?
Imagine if someone had done that to a muslim crescent?
As for Plato? ..
Oh,...FJ..I"m talking to YOU now, of course..!
WOW...does Plato nail what's going on OR WHAT?
Everything old is new again...yikes
Wow, I wish i could address every great point you guys all make here.
Cj...Pelosi makes it sound as if "I just can't BELIEVE people could think differently than I DO, they MUST be uninformed.." Typical left.
Elbro..good on that email to the Arnold.
Gayle....the gays here in LA won't even picket the black churches most of which also funded the NO GAY MARRIAGE prop. Not COOL to picket the Black congregations...imagine if it were muslims? NEVER... But Mormons? WHITE CHRISTIANS? FIRE AWAY!
Well...all great comments..thanks.
This is really sad situation; another pretty obvious indication of how 'open minded' the left is.
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