obama is the president elect. Something to grieve over, certainly, but something to try to work through... on all levels. I woke to other news which I wrote some thoughts down about...
Black America is beyond thrilled. I am, too. Maybe the Left can stop referring to America as racist? Think that might happen? What does not thrill me is the amount of Americans who put their color and comfort before their country. I will be curious if numbers come out showing how many Republican Blacks voted for obama. I know that several evangelical Black pastors who are not pro choice and not for gay marriage did vote for him. While I am thrilled, too, that America voted for a Black President, I obviously wish he were someone with good character, someone who just once showed he loved America as she is, understood her history better. Nobody should have elected someone who lied so very much, and it was so apparent, who didn't see that?
obama said, in his speech last night (I did not watch it, I heard this on the news this morning) "We have been and always will be the United States of America" WHAT DID HE MEAN?? What president has ever said that? WHY say that? Is that reassuring? Who would have doubted THAT?
He also apparently said "Those of you who didn't vote for me...I HEAR YOU!" Should that be reassuring or a "RuhRoh" moment? How did he mean that!!?? ruhroh
What are your Day After Election Thoughts now that the dust has settled? Or has it? How're you doing??
UPDATE: I just heard, on the radio, a Black Los Angeles lawyer say how stunned he is that obama won : "I'm just so surprised that America didn't see through the SMOKE AND MIRRORS of this obama.....I'm really sorry about that..." ya, Mr Lawyer, and if I ever need a lawyer, you'll be it.
CONDI RICE has said she is very pleased about a Black American winning the presidency and that her State Department will work with them to make the transition as easy as possible (another RUHROH moment) Oy....POOR ISRAEL. Congratulations, Jews who voted for obama. WHAT were you THINKING?
z
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Right on Z, White Guilt stops here.
No More Affirmative Action, No More Hate Crime legislation... No more Sharpton and Jackson...
We went along with the guilt game for so long, it's impossible for them to keep it up when we have an unqualified black man in the white house.. it's the be all end all of Affirmative action.
obama said, in his speech last night (I did not watch it, I heard this on the news this morning) "We have been and always will be the United States of America" WHAT DID HE MEAN?? What president has ever said that? WHY say that? Is that reassuring? Who would have doubted THAT?
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And here for so long we have had to listen to the right go on about just who is a "Real American". Listen while you trotted out fakes like "Joe the Plumber" as "Real Americans" and polluted the national dialog. You don't have standing to decide who the "Real Americans" are. That's over.
Obama is saying that's over if you want it to be over. Or you can make Sarah Palin the great unifier.
A good thing happened last night. A lot of the nation rejected the hate that has been spewed from the right for a couple decades now.
Chose wisely. You can tear things down or help build. Your choice.
thanks, misfit, but the Left will still find ways to demonize Americans...Ducky is already in overdrive living in his bubble of LEFTIST drivel.
Any election this close shows we still DO have good AMericans amongst us. I would venture to say those Black Americans who voted for obama, too, are good Americans...they just bought into the lies. So did Ducky....go figure. By the way, nobody "trotted out" anyone, duck...that poor guy who was only playing football and dared voice an opinion. and your brown shirts descended. Now THAT is scary
Ducky, you should be fearful too, but you don't yet understand what you bought.
The only hate I read here is the crap spewing from your putrid brain, Ducky. What I mostly see in this blog and many other "conservative" journals is honest, intellectual dialogue. Not everyone agrees, but 99% of the people "on the right" are civil. You on the other hand hate so much, you stink.
Elle Phank
What hate Ducky? there as been no more hate than what as been projected at Bush for the last 8 years. You and your ilk have done nothing but try to wound and trip him up as much as possible, taking pleasure in his every failure and doing as much as you can to insure more of them. You put your own biased agendas before what is best for our nation.
Are you serious in your assault on Joe the Plumber? Joe is a common citizen that asked a question of Obama because he had the chance to. It was a perfectly good question and as Obama then reassured his fears that yes.. this is pretty much Socialist!!
And why does it bother you? and why does not NOT bother you that what resulted was a shakedown of Joe's personal information illegally? this is your Fuerher Daffy, you ignored the invasion and unquestionable nature of them.. you are not allowed to question the Messiah's judgement.. this kind of Arrogance was Bush's biggest problem, and it exists in Obama so much deeper than it did in Bush.. it's going to be a horrible, horrible thing we face.
"A good thing happened last night. A lot of the nation rejected the hate that has been spewed from the right for a couple decades now."
You seriously don't get it do you? It's called concern for traditional values. Of course to you that would be hate, but you know what, it's not my problem that's yours! The trash that comes out of your mouth just isn't worth my time and effort!
Well, we see it like this misfit.
What I mean by that is that for the past 14 years America’s political life has been largely dominated by, well, monsters.
Monsters like Tom DeLay, who suggested that the shootings at Columbine happened because schools teach students the theory of evolution.
Monsters like Karl Rove, who declared that liberals wanted to offer “therapy and understanding” to terrorists.
Monsters like Dick Cheney, who saw 9/11 as an opportunity to start torturing people.
And in our national discourse, the left pretended that these monsters were reasonable, respectable people. To point out that the monsters were, in fact, monsters, was “shrill.”
That's over. We aren't going to take it any more.
Now the decision is what can we build from this wreckage left by Bush et. al.
Do NOT let this get you down! Trust me, if Obama accomplishes half of what he wants to do, people will be sick of him in 3 years. That means we get a real Republican running in 2012.
Of course, Duck, Rove was right.. we simply can't afford to act like that..you'll find out soon enough, sadly.
I dont know about Delay, I am not a fan of his, never was. who cares..? it is telling you had to go that far back, isnt it.
um..as far as MONSTERS and how the Left never called anyone names....what can any thinking person say in response? When a senator tells school children their pres is a liar, HITLER's name has been bandied about by your Dick Durbin, Keith Olbermann has been pretty uncivilized and ugly...Michael Moore....the celebs you must admire so much since you share so much in common....
ugh, duck...you hang with such horrid types and call people who want to keep America America MONSTERS because you don't agree with their (and the founding fathers) sentiments. ick
With any luck, we will not stop torturing people...I, for one, don't want them on my doorstep, but I KNOW, you have much better info than our State Dept has and there is no terror threat. thanks.
kevin...i cant find your blog from clicking on your name...:(
i was sad/stunned at first. but i'm over it now. god is in the midst. we'll be okay.
i wrote my own post about it too.
:O
~m
Of course, Duck, Rove was right.. we simply can't afford to act like that..you'll find out soon enough, sadly.
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Torture must be one of Jennifer's and your "traditional values", I guess.
Well, it ain't part of our tradition.
it is an historical result in terms of having a black man as president elect. however, i cannot be concilatory.
mccain was not MY nominee. nor was he the nominee of the majority of those who make up the gop. he is merely the nominee that the msm and the dems allowed us to have.
where it was on the ballot, even yesterday, conservativism won. moderatism did not. people did not vote so much for the liberals, but rather for the only party that was clearly enunciating a platform - even if it was sugar-coated and propped up with lies.
so long as i am not required to go against god or the constitution, i will honor the man as the president of the united states. however, he is not the messiah. i already have one of those.
time to regroup. my bet is that by the time the mid-terms come around, people will really be feeling buyers' remorse. hopefully, by then, we'll have some actual conservatives to put on the ballots for the gop.
I wonder how long it will take Rush Limbaugh to cut and paste Obama's name into his next best-selling "President [Democrat] sucks" novel.
As usual, Heidianne underscores the central problem with the GOP since 2005. Someone commented that if the GOP is confused about what the party represents (i.e., moderate republicans), then there can be no resurgence of conservative principles. It would appear that the great maverick illustrates the case-in-point.
This is an interesting topic because I personally think that most Americans are not extreme right or left; if the GOP intends to increase its constituency, it cannot exclude individuals with moderate points of view. I would like to hear other views on this topic. If either party fails to represent the views of those “in the center,” then it would seem that two additional political parties are the only solution. We should consider that Mr. Obama was elected by fifty-three percent of voters, but that only forty-percent of the American people even bothered to vote. Sixty-three million people elected our newest president, or about twenty-one percent of our population.
The bottom line, however, is that I do not know a single leader in the GOP who (1) stands out as a conservative exemplar, and/or (2) inspires any of us in the same sense as the “great communicator.” Ian MacMillan told us that political influence is the capacity to influence or modify the perceptions of other . . . I don’t see any republican who has this kind of influence. Do you?
Mustang,
As long as there are conservatives who believe conservatism needs to be redefined, there is no conservatism.
I think that's true, Beamish. But isn't it also true that if most conservative views are in the minority, there is no conservative party? Isn't that what liberals want?
Mustang,
But who's a conservative? George W. Bush? John McCain? Rush Limbaugh? Pat Buchanan? Michael "Savage?" Ron Paul? Mitt Romney? Condi Rice? Paul Wolfowitz? Sarah Palin? Hannah Montana? The friggin Jonas Brothers?
We're so few in number there ain't none of us.
who is a real conservative...you guys tell me...very good question.
What is the conservative manifesto?
who sticks the closest to it?
and who are the friggin' Jonas brothers, anyway??
Z,
The conservative manifesto is and should always be: "There is no conservative manifesto."
(with apologies to Edmund Burke...)
Jesse Jackson and Oprah are not satisfied. They say this is a great day for Blacks, and a day of "redemption" for whites who voted for The One. I can do without Jesse Jackson's redemption.
I am sick to the point of collapse with hearing the people being interviewed on the news saying they voted for Obama because "He Black!"
Doubtless these individuals choose their doctors and lawyers in the same manner.
in the exit polls people said that they only 9% think Republicans are too conservative
the loss was a Republican one not a conservative one
it's time Repulicans got back to the conservative message of Ronald Reagan and communicate as well as he did
I see Ducky doesn't have the grace he asked for when his beloved Red Sox lost. Even I complied with his request.
However this isn't a game and however much he would like the rules to change, fortunately, Z, and we, can decide what we damn well please.
The rules are the constitution, and that remains the same. Real Americans are never out. They might get knocked down but they get back up to fight another day.
We will I'm sure, give Obama the same consideration Ducky and his "friends" gave President Bush. We too have had to listen for eight years.
We will not lose our country without a fight.
Pris
beamish, maybe I'm being overly simplistic, and maybe MANIFESTO isn't the right word, but I think you know what I mean...Who would YOU say is a good example of conservatism...your sort of ideal? Reagan?
Hermit....I am sick and tired of feeling like a racist when nothing I have ever done is remotely racist. Talk about some creepy guilt by association that OPrah and the rev Jessie have put on America....Funny, but I'd have thought Jackson would be furious at so obviously having been put to pasture during the campaign...just ANOTHER form of LIE from obama.
Why wasn't Jesse at his side? we can only assume obama thought white America would read too much into that.....or he doesn't like him...why else would Jackson miss a photo op every day of a campaign? Mr Photo OP? No way . Something WAS WAY up with that and it is only that we don't have a curious enough media to look into it that Americans didn't get the truth and vote accordingly. I suspect we'd not have liked the answer.
Elbro....I am surprised at that stat...and pleased! Thanks
Pris, the computer guy is coming around six with my computer...wish us luck!
And yes, imagine Duck suggesting the Left was polite and silent for the MONSTER? Imagine, with all the really constant, horrid treatment Bush got? Shows how out of touch with reality hateful people can be...Machiavellian. sad
Historically (with the exception of 2002), the first midterm after the election sees a loss of seats by the party that occupies the White House. Right now, the focus should be which seats, the GOP can successfully target and win in 2010.
As for defining conservatism, whatever path or policy creates the most freedom for all people, should be a foundational principle in this ideolgy. But more than just losing this election, maybe we shouldn't look at it as a failure of conservatism. It's a failure of the GOP to promote and implement policies that promote the most freedom.
Z,
A conservative, by definition, is the custodian of human experience. We stick to what works and resist changing to new things because we know what hasn't worked in the past. History was written FOR us to understand.
And the one thing conservatives understand about history the most is that nothing lasts forever.
Hey Ducky -- I hope you kept the receipt on the fake glass trinkets you bought yesterday. Otherwise when you sober up and find out the goods are fake you'll be in for quite a surprise. Don't say we didn't try to warn you!!! By the way, how's that stock market tanking by 486 points going for you? I thought the markets typically jump UP the day after an election?! Go figure!!!
Z, I tried and tried to conjure up some emotion while watching the events unfold Tuesday night. I thought about how monumental it was to elect our first black president.
Nothing happened. No tears.
If he had character, integrity, honesty...things would be different. I would be proud.
I felt sick knowing that so many people voted for him simply BECAUSE of his skin color. Are we not above that? I guess we're not. Maybe we still have some road to travel, but at least we know where we are on this racism journey. It's far from over. Racism will always exist in America, I think. I wish it weren't so. I think that multiculturalism breeds racism, and liberals breed multiculturalism.
I do know this: We will be okay. I don't know what that means, but how can we not be? The victory is won. It may not be easy or pretty, but there are and have been worse things than what we're experiencing now. To sit and fret is a double tragedy, as I waste the moments I'm given in the here and now.
Much love to you.
I've been thinking about the UTTER disdain obama showed he had for FOX, remember? He slams Hannity, mentions FOX as if it's Typhoid Mary? that is SCARY..half of America doesn't think like he does; I hope he some day realizes that.
Pinky, you're right...the victory is ours, this is just fodder.
But, we have a country to save and I believe it's God's country ... and there is a huge remnant who deserve protection.....
I was stunned to hear Afghanistan's Kharzai congratulate Americans on voting in this man ...apparently THIS showed we have 'morals'...not the really huge morals Bush showed in saving the ARSE of Afghanistan, right? Stinkers.
I was expecting Obama to win so when Pennsylvania went for him I just sort of shrugged. But then when they announced his win I burst into tears, surprising myself. Then I was surprised again by the overwhelming black reaction. That shouldn't have surprised me but it did. Race was so NOT an issue, it seemed to me, but obviously for them it was overwhelmingly the issue. To such an extent that it knocked out all my complaints about how they'd elected the destruction of the nation in their zeal. Like, it means that much to them, let them have him. Sincerely. So I'll back off for a while and let him try to prove himself. Knowing he can't but not wanting to spoil their wrongheaded triumph. Weird bunch of reactions I suppose.
Conservatives running around blaming McCain for losing are the exact reason the Republican party IS losing. The bulk of the people in this country are in the middle. Push them out and the liberals win. Did you really think that someone like Ron Paul had, or will ever have, any chance at all? If so, you need your head examined, I'm sorry, you really do. If you don't learn this truth, then, God help us all, we will keep losing. The cold hard fact is that this country was founded right of center, it is right of center, and it probably(hopefully) will stay right of center, BUT NOT all the way to the right!
cj, I think those are interesting feelings, and I enjoyed reading your experience.
Was just at Community Bible Study and the lecturer asked us to pray for Pres Obama's success. Of course, I will NEVER pray that he gets HIS successes because his idea of a successful America is anathema to mine, but I will pray that he does become a real Christian, not a Black separatist, White and America-hating supposed Christian like his pastor of 20 years. I will pray for him and I'll pray he doesn't harm us too much. That's the best I can do. At least for now.
Average American...Did you see Elmer's Brother's stat that only 9%of people polled as they exited said Republicans are too conservative?
I HONESTLY do believe that, had mcCain came clean and USED THE WORD LIE...not pussy footed around, but LIE in regard to Wright, Ayers ("we only lived in the same neighborhood"), etc etc, we'd have won. I do.
As for Black America...I do understand their pleasure..how can we NOT? AND, the redeeming thing about that (so I'm not TOO ticked off and disappointed in them) is that they usually vote Democrat.....
Funny, some talk show host this morning asked "Then why didn't they vote for Alan Keyes?" Which is REALLY THE QUESTION HERE>
Obviously, Keyes is no Democrat and he is a Christian with Christian values, not obama's infanticide values, but why NOT?
HM
Because it really isn't about race, it's about the POLITICS of race. You have to have the right politics for your race to matter. That's the logic of it. Gloria Steinem made that clear about Sarah Palin. Feminism isn't about biology, it's about having the kind of ideas that matter to women, and Sarah Palin's don't. This is the kind of doublespeak world we live in now.
cj, I have a Black girlfriend I have quoted here before; "I could never vote against my people". She agrees with me across the line on every issue, good Christian woman, very good Mom, wife, friend, etc........"can't vote against my people".
As I said in another place here somewhere, I find it sad that any race/group would vote for color and comfort over country.
Would she vote for Alan Keyes then? I suppose there must be some who are that consistent, but as you were getting at in the previous post, race (and sex) turns out not to be all that important if the candidate isn't a leftie.
I just watched Oprah. Her enthusiasm for Obama is endless, and today she had on Will Smith who admitted to crying over his win for the same reason of race.
How sad. I'd LOVE to be able to share their joy but they are carrying on about this trojan horse of a President. Will they wake up some day?
well said, Mizz Z! I think that's why Jesse Jackson was crying November 4th.
Jesse Jackson was crying because he knew the cameras were on him.
Ouch. That was mean. I'm sure he was proud, too.
Right, Pinky..he was thinking "Thank GOD they're finally back on ME again.....they haven't totally forgotten me yet! How long was it I had to stay away from obama for that million bucks? OH, man..another 3 MONTHS? I need the cameras..Light, Camera, ACTION! It's MEEEEE The RAINBOW COALTION KING....REMEMBER MEEEE?"
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