Monday, November 10, 2008

Steven Den Beste says it The Best(e)

Election view by Steven Den Beste - November 4, 2008

Not the end of the world (Z's comments, too...)

It's easy to let yourself go in despair and start thinking things like "We are well-and-truly xxxx'd" or "This is the worst of all possible outcomes". But it isn't true. (yes, it is; considering the other outcome would have been Obama losing, this IS the worst of all possible outcomes.)

I think this election is going to be a "coming of age" moment for a lot of people. They say, "Be careful what you wish for" and a lot of people got their wish yesterday. And now they're bound to be disappointed. Not even Jesus could satisfy all the expectations of Obama's most vocal supporters, or fulfill all the promises Obama has made. (I'm very sure Jesus could, but that's beside the point. The rest is absolutely true....how many times did we try to tell Americans "be careful what you wish for?)

I think Obama is going to turn out to be the worst president since Carter, and for the same reason: good intentions do not guarantee good results. Idealists often stub their toes on the wayward rocks of reality, and fall on their faces. And the world doesn't respond to benign behavior benignly.

But there's another reason why: Obama has been hiding his light under a basket. A lot of people bought a pig in a poke today, and now they're going to find out what they bought. Obama isn't what most of them think he is. The intoxication of the cult will wear off, leaving a monumental hangover. (And this pig never DID have lipstick on)

And four years from now they'll be older and much wiser.

A lot of bad things are going to happen during this term. But I don't think that this is an irreversible catastrophe for the union. I've lived long enough to absorb this basic truth: the US is too large and too strong to destroy in just 4 years. Or even in 8. We survived 6 years of Nixon. We survived 4 years of Carter. We even survived 8 years of Clinton, God alone knows how.(Well, terrorism and Iran's nukes could give us a run as far as surviving 4 years, but I'm hoping this guy's optimism is right)

The President of the United States is the most powerful political figure in the world, but as national executives go his powers are actually quite restricted. Obama will become President, but he won't be dictator or king, let alone deity. He still has to work with the House and the Senate, and he still has to live within Constitutional restrictions, and with a judiciary that he mostly didn't appoint. (He didn't get that senate majority but he's already planning to overturn Bush's stands on stem cell and gobal warming and he can slide those right by.....facts aren't important to these people; WE know embryonic cells haven't worked as other stem cells have but this is about abortion, isn't it, not stem cells, "got to kill those babes".......he also belongs to the group of nonthinkers who don't find it odd that NO invitations to the big Bali Warming convention went to those who do NOT feel this latest warming is mostly caused by humans! THAT's open minded, right? AGENDA, this is all agenda..not thoughtful decisions based on ALL the information..that's scary)

The main reason this will be a "coming of age" moment is that now Obama and the Democrats have to put up or shut up. Obama got elected by making himself a blank slate, with vapid promises about "hope" and "change" -- but now he actually has to do something. Now he has to reveal his true agenda. And with the Democrats also having a majority in both chambers of Congress, now the Democrats really have to lead. And they're not going to do a very good job of it. It's going to be amusing to watch. ("amusing" isn't the word I'd use, but it'll be interesting, that's for sure!)

And the people who fell for the demagoguery will learn an invaluable lesson. (they deserve it)
Oh, the Democrats try to blame failure on Republican filibusters, of which there will be many. But that's always been a factor in our system, and many people believe it's an important check on government excess. The tradition in the Senate is that it is supposed to be a buffer against transient political fads, and the filibuster is a major part of that. (this is why I begged obama voters to please consider voting for the Republican senator or congressman...when did Americans stop believing in checks and balances?)

If the Democrats go all in, and change the filibuster rule, then they'll have truly seized the nettle with both hands and won't have any excuses any longer. That's why they won't do it. It's their last fig-leaf. But even with the filibuster rule in place, they'll be stuck trying to deliver now on all the promises implied, or inferred, during this election. The Republicans can only filibuster on bills the Democrats have already proposed.

And it ain't possible for the Democrats to deliver what's been promised. Gonna be a hell of a lot of disillusioned lefties out there. A lot of people who felt they were deceived. A lot of people who will eventually realize that the Obama campaign was something of a cult. Disillusionment will turn to a feeling of betrayal. And that will, in turn, convert to anger. (What a mix; heartbroken conservatives and disillusioned lefties..)

In the mean time, Obama and Congressional Democrats will do things that cause harm, but very little of it will be irreversible.

I would have enjoyed watching lefty heads explode if McCain had won. But we're going to see lefty heads exploding anyway; it's just going to take longer.

In the mean time, those of us who didn't want Obama to be president have to accept that he is. And let's not give in to the kind of paranoid fever dreams that have consumed the left for the last 8 years. Let us collectively take a vow tonight: no "Obama derangement syndrome". Obama is a politician. He isn't the devil incarnate. (Ya, I know..."don't say it, Z!") So what are the good sides of what just happened?

1. It is no longer possible for anyone to deny that the MSM is heavily biased. The MSM have been biased for decades but managed an illusion of fairness. That is no longer possible; the MSM have squandered their credibility during this campaign. They'll never get that credibility back again. (Even the Washington Post admitted it today!)

2. Since the Democrats got nearly everything they hoped for in this campaign, they'll have no excuses and will have to produce. They'll have to reveal their true agenda -- or else make clear that they don't really have any beyond gaining power. (Their true agenda is to make America mediocre, "America doesn't deserve to be the world power..")

3. Every few decades the American people have to be reminded that peace only comes with strength. The next four years will be this generation's lesson. (So, WE know we have no strength left when obama's in power....how long will it take for Iran to find out? Oh, that's right, they already wrote congratulating obama on their luck...I mean HIS luck, sorry.)

Now, a few predictions for the next four years:

1. Obama's "hold out your hand to everyone" foreign policy is going to be a catastrophe. They'll love it in Europe. They're probably laughing their heads off about it in the middle east already.

2. The US hasn't suffered a terrorist attack by al Qaeda since 9/11, but we'll get at least one during Obama's term.

3. We're going to lose in Afghanistan.4. Iran will get nuclear weapons. There will be nuclear war between Iran and Israel. (This is the only irreversibly terrible thing I see upcoming, and it's very bad indeed.)

5. There will eventually be a press backlash against Obama which will make their treatment of Bush look mild. Partly that's going to be because Obama is going to disappoint them just as much as all his other supporters. Partly it will be the MSM desperately trying to regain its own credibility, by trying to show that they're not in his tank any longer. And because of that they are eventually going to do the reporting they should have done during this campaign, about Obama's less-than-savory friends, and about voter fraud, and about illegal fund-raising, and about a lot of other things.and

6. Obama will not be re-elected in 2012. He may even end up doing an LBJ and not even running again. (Z predicts he will be impeached in ...3 years..Yup, I do. There is NO WAY he can survive while not living up to ALL the HOPE AND CHANGE he promised...he'll have angry people to face who'll make Bush haters look like Bush lovers)

One last thing: I'm not saying I'm happy with this outcome. I would much rather have had McCain win. But this is not the end of the world, or the end of this nation. We've survived much worse.And now we need to show the lefties how to lose. Our mission for the next four years is to be in opposition without becoming deranged. (This will be difficult!! no..downright impossible)

UPDATE: One other good thing: no one will be spinning grand conspiracy theories about this administration's Vice President being an evil, conniving genius who is the true power behind the throne. (I'll take 'evil and conniving' as long as 'genius' is part of it....with biden, we only have the 2 two....oh, and DUMB) and I still think his first paragraph was right...we really ARE "well and truly XXX'd"z

z

29 comments:

Anonymous said...

True Republicans are not happy about a communist managing to steal the 2008 election through massive fraud (college kids voting multiple times for obama, inmates voting for obama, dead people voting for obama, non-citizens voting for obama, etc.). But the cold comfort for Republicans is that a couple of years from now when obama lays waste to our economy, security, and health care, Republicans can smugly say "I told you so!".

Ducky's here said...

Not the end of the world. I expect that makes you eschatologists a little sad.

Ducky's here said...

A communists?

Frank, if you see any evidence of a revolutionary working class let me know. I certainly don't.

Worker ownership of production. Hell, you guys are even afraid to unionize. Hardly the seeds for communism.

No, when you say communism you mean a graduated income tax. Interesting because you would pay less. I suspect you object to the graduated tax because you imagine yourself rich some day. Ain't gonna happen.

Communist? Aren't you ashamed of theat level of hyperbole?

Anonymous said...

Ducky, are you ashamed of that level of denial?

Ducky's here said...

(this is why I begged obama voters to please consider voting for the Republican senator or congressman...when did Americans stop believing in checks and balances?)

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This is really something, z. It's as if you weren't paying attention during the controversy over "the nuclear option" and the Terry Schiavo affair.
The far right ran roughshod over separation of powers and now you want everyone to play nice.

You don't find this more than hypocritical?

RightKlik said...

Obama will be Carter on steroids: just as dangerous, but infinitely more effective. I think that in all likelihood, Obama will be in power for eight years. He knows how to use power very efficiently, and now he has quite a bit. And he has a fawning media at his beck and call.

Misfit410 said...

Again Ducky there you are calling us Alarmists and you want to bring up Schiavo? people asked Bush to step in and did he? what did Bush do? Nothing..

But this was not a normal "Right to life/death" situation, this was a situation of Parents wanting to be able to care for their daughter and the husband wanting to off her.. why was it too horrible to just hand her over to the parents and cut off freely? it would have been different if it was just the husband involved.. but you wanted to ignore the parents wishes... and damn you for that.

Anonymous said...

For the sake of our country, I hope that Obama does not govern in the way that we all rightly fear he will, for, in spite of my dislike for Obama, I would much rather see the US prosper under a surprisingly successful Obama presidency than stumble under a failed one. More realistically, however, I believe that as conservatives we need to speedily prepare a principled, persuasive, and most importantly, coherent opposition and alternative to the liberal agenda. Securing a Republican majority in the House and Senate in the midterm elections would go a long way toward steering policy in a more favorable direction.

Chuck said...

Come on, Z, everyone knows George Soros is the cunning genius behind this administration.

shoprat said...

I don't think he'll be impeached, but I do expect him to find his leash shortened to about 3 inches after the mid-term elections, and then the Donks will do all they can to forget him. People will be longing to have Bush by 10.

I agree with Chuck, Soros (An ethnic Jew whose family supported and worked for Hitler if you want to talk about a world-class traitor) is the real power behind Obama.

Ducky's here said...
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Ducky's here said...

2. Since the Democrats got nearly everything they hoped for in this campaign, they'll have no excuses and will have to produce.

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Nope we don't have the filibuster proof majority. Although the Franken recount is going our way and the Stevens vote count is in question.

We also haven't had the glorious pleasure of officially seeing Joe Lieberman get his teeth kicked in and lose his chairmanship but that's coming.

Did you notice the release from the Pentagon today saying their budget is unsustainable and required improvements are at risk without change?
Told ya.

Ducky's here said...

misfit, just what could Bush do in the Schiavo case?

Fact is that the brain trust in the Senate had Frisk do a complicated neurological diagnosis from a three year old videotape and attempt to bypass established case law with it.

Yet you didn't call that an abuse of power. Is there nothing you won't excuse.

Z said...

Protecting life is never hypocritical, Ducky. We don't kill humans in this country.....yet. it's coming. misfit is right..the parents had offered to care for their daughter...how really hideous that people like you wouldn't go for it. I guess it bothered you that people were self reliant again, not depending on THE STATE.

Ducky, why is it you can call Republicans LIARS, GAY, and really horrid names you've used here (as well as the others on the left) and a person can't refer to Obama as a communist or socialist!? You VOTED for the guy knowing he's a socialist and now you resent the terms?
Why is it not troubling for you to hear your side say things like "It's only FAIR for the rich to give to others what they have" when the RICH pay approx 75% of all taxes in this country, anyway?
I Know you people have perverted American history in our textbooks, but you'd think ANYBODY could understand that when FDR raised the rich's taxes to 60%, the depression deepened. WHY are facts SO difficult to grasp?

Z said...

Ducky, you say: Nope we don't have the filibuster proof majority. Although the Franken recount is going our way and the Stevens vote count is in question.

ARE YOU PROUD OF A GUY WHO'D POSE IN DIAPERS ...THIS IS THE KIND OF CLASS YOU WANT IN THE SENATE? ARE YOU JOKING? OBAMA GAVE HILLARY AND MCCAIN THE FINGER (I'LL PROVIDE THE VIDEO, NO PROBLEM), AND WE WORRY NOW THAT HE COULD DO THAT IN PUBLIC AGAIN IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY, FOR EXAMPLE, AMERICAN'S AREN'T USED TO THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR IN A PRESIDENT...BUT YOU'D ACCEPT FRANKEN, TOO? WOW.

We also haven't had the glorious pleasure of officially seeing Joe Lieberman get his teeth kicked in and lose his chairmanship but that's coming.

'HIS TEETH KICKED IN'....A LITTLE BROWN SHIRT TACTICS BECAUSE HE WAS INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY SEE ANOTHER SIDE THAN THAT OF THE LEFT? NO WONDER YOU COULD VOTE FOR AN OBAMA WHO'D TREAT JOE THE PLUMBER AND THOSE JOURNALISTS WHO DARED QUESTION 'THE ONE'....I'M HOPING LIEBERMAN MAKES A HUUUGE STINK ABOUT THIS AND FINALLY REALIZES WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE LEFT. IT'S TOO BAD, BECAUSE I'M FAIRLY SURE NOT ALL DEMS ARE QUITE THAT RIGID AND NASTY...? I HOPE SO?

Did you notice the release from the Pentagon today saying their budget is unsustainable and required improvements are at risk without change?
Told ya.

WE'RE NOT ARGUING THIS WAR AGAIN HERE...I STARTED TYPING THEN DELETED. WHAT IS THE POINT?

CONGRATULATIONS, DUCKY, THERE'S ALSO BEEN A TERRIBLE LEAK TO IN THE NYTIMES ALERTING THE WORLD THAT BUSH AND RUMSFELD WERE SMART ENOUGH TO ALLOW AMERICANS TO GO ANYWHERE TO GET AL QAEDA OPERATIVES EVEN NOT IN THE THEATER OF WAR, DID YOU HEAR THAT? THAT MAKES YOU FEEL WARM AND COZY KNOWING SOMENOE AT THE NYTIMES IS NOW LEAKING TO THE WORLD THINGS THAT WERE KEEPING AMERICANS SAFER BY KILLING TERRORISTS?
AS FOR THE PENTAGON; I'D SAY IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO PUT A CHUNK OF MONEY THERE THAN MAKING SURE FRANKLIN RAINES GETS HIS NINETY-THREE MILLION....OR MAYBE HE ALREADY CASHED OUT? THAT LEFTY ON OBAMA'S TEAM WHO DROVE OUR HOUSING SITUATION INTO THE GROUND?

Average American said...

There's only one way that asshole that will soon be occupying the White House will get my respect, and that is by earning it. There is a 99.999999% chance that Hell will freeze over first.

Average American said...

Z, we had all better hope and pray and fight when he tries to institute his civilian Security Force. The last thing we need is for him to have his own militia. He must be jealous of Muqtada Al Sadr.

Ducky's here said...

Respect life z?

She was legally dead. There has to be some arbiter and medical science was unanimous.

People get taken off life support all the time. It is common to avoid life support. In fact the Holy Father declined life support in his final days.

Now, when Schiavo was autopsied it was determined that she had no brain but just a cranium filled with spinal fluid as was predicted.

Having the Senate intervene in a case that was clear and covered by established case law was a miscarriage. There were many in the passed eight years.

Ducky's here said...

z, what do you expect Lieberman can do? The R's have nothing to offer him. Do you think they are going to give him a committee chair and skip over a party regular. They need that kind of friction, right?

He will be stripped of his chairmanship by the Dems and he can caucus with whomever he wishes since his vote won't be a decider.

Then he runs in Connecticut at the end of his term and gets creamed or he retires.

Have you looked at what happens to R's in New England? Not a single republican House member and we stripped another Senate seat. Don't like 'em up here in God's country.

Ducky's here said...

z, I have a question. Do you believe that the financial situation is caused by number of mortgage failures alone?

Z said...

Ducky, Schiavo's parents were the arbiters. Most people don't want government in their hospital room. HER PARENTS were who should have chosen. I'm not going to argue this again.
The Holy Father was able to refuse life support. HE did, Ducky, not the state.

Lieberman was a man of conscience...you "up there" haven't chosen anyone but a big gov't nut for years...i'm impressed. Just inching slower and slower toward socialism.....
Lieberman, too, has lefty viewpoints, but OH, they didn't like it when he crossed the line about the war..CAN'T HAVE THAT! .
And, of course, his vote will count. You don't think it'll be THAT easy for your people to ruin America, DO YOU?

and no, of course I don't believe the economy's solely based on the mortgage problem alone. I believe that's an enormous part and would have been avoided had McCain and Bush's words been heeded.

And, I do believe confidence has shrunken due to that alone, yes.
When confidence goes, the economy goes. But the Left and media might have gone too far with the 'gloom and doom' this time; they won an election unwinnable by Iraq talk (lucky for you)..the surge ended up working against us because things are so much better; ironic, now that I think of it.

Sure, the lefties got the war talk shelved, the economy became the focus, dopes actually think the Republicans caused it, and here you go~! They're the same types who thought Clinton's WH wasn't leading us straight into recession by the time he got out. Congratulations! But, they went a tad too far this time.....kept the negativity going far, far too long. People stopped buying. not good. it'll take a while to get that confidence back, but the left/media might have pushed too far this time..I hope not. Do you?

Anonymous said...

If I remember correctly, Ducky, you have no children of your own. Terry Schiavo's parents wanted to care for her, you dolt.

But, of course a judge knew better huh? Yes by all means let's leave it to the state to decided life or death for an innocent person. In fact let's starve people to death.

Aren't you against torture? I seem to remember you are. Well what the heck that pertains to beheaders of innocents.

I would bet money you are against the death penalty. Cruel and unusual punishment for crazed killers.

However, life for someone's impaired daughter? Nope, kill her, damn it, she's no use to anyone, right?

Your know Ducky, I've said in the past you should look in the mirror.
I am now convinced if you did, there would be no reflection. What are you doing up and out in the daylight?

Pris

Ducky's here said...

Pris and Z. TERRY SCHIAVO's HUSBAND had the legal right to make the decision as was upheld by the courts.

All of a sudden you hate marriage. Republicans are strange people.

Z said...

some things go past the courts.

Anonymous said...

Ducky, I'm aware of the case. Terry Schiavo's husband had moved on to greener pastures, and stood to gain a sizable amount of money, upon her death as I recall.

I know he had legal rights, unfortunately her life was in his hands and he wanted to wash those hands of her. It seems marriage didn't mean a whole lot to him.


However, since the court had no written declaration of Terry's wishes, it had only his word. Is that the law? Hearsay?


It would have been no skin off his nose to allow her parents to care for her. Except for that money of course. Yeah, a real stand up guy, that.

BTW, I've been married 51 years and I love it.

You're comment about hating marriage is stupid. But, stupid is as stupid does.


So Ducky, do you support the death penalty? Torture? She was starved to death. Remember? Isn't it amazing, there is no law against starving someone to death.

But, a criminal must be executed with as little discomfort as possible.

Don't cite the law to me please, sometimes the law is an ass.


Pris

Z said...

Pris, if I remember correctly, and I do....the death was never really explained, either. MANY thought he'd strangled her/cutting the air path off for too long. MANY.

Ya, stand up guy....

The parents were incredible..and their daughter did respond to them from time to time, we all saw the videos. I know that the brain was supposedly called officially dead but those videos were really haunting.

Anonymous said...

Yes Z, I remember. The whole thing was heartbreaking. The husband even kept it a secret where she was buried, and wouldn't allow the parents to know.

What a horrible man. Talk about heartless. Those poor parents, having to stand by and watch this horror unfold.

Pris

Z said...

The parents never found out where their DAUGHTER was BURIED, Pris? Are you kidding?

WOW

Anonymous said...

Z,
I hope to God the parents eventually were told. I think they may have gone to court to get a court order allowing them to know. My memory is kind've fuzzy, as to whether or when they eventually were allowed to go to her gravesite. I do remember the husband tried to keep them away.

That whole episode was fraught with cruelty for those parents.

Pris