Saturday, March 26, 2011

"A Conference to change the world economic system"...Soros, at it again. Only worse this time

Our 'friend' George Soros is planning a big conference, have you heard?  I hadn't, either, until someone sent me THIS LINK (quotes in italics below are from the linked article).   Oh, yes, the guy who said "the main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat" is taking no chances.........according to The Business and Media Institute.

The event is bringing together "more than 200 academic, business and government policy thought leaders' to repeat the famed 1944 Bretton Woods gathering that helped create the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. Soros wants a new 'multilateral system," or an economic system where America isn't so dominant....and, of course, more than two-thirds of the slated speakers have direct ties to Soros. ....

Soros emphasized that point, that this needs to be a global solution, making America one among many. "The rising powers must be present at the creation of this new system in order to ensure that they will be active supporters."  (Z: think Obama or Geithner will disagree?)
Dan Gainor is a wonderful writer, please read the whole link....HERE it is again.  It's so important we read these things because we're not getting them from the mainstream media, that is FOR SURE.   
Do you think Soros is unstoppable and can win?   I'm thinking America's in just the right economic position for him to succeed in his "multilateral system where we're not dominant.....Methinks those days of American dominance are over and, after all, our professors at universities teach that this is better so there won't be much argument.  

Well, "world after to Soros", be very careful what you ask for.
    What are your thoughts?


Always On Watch said...

More "Change!" and the Obama administration is in there pitching.

Chuck said...

I think it's saber rattling.

Last year I would have been worried but this kind of thing was headed off when the GOP retook the House last year.

Obama could do some of this on his own but won't before the next election. After that he may not be there to do it. Even if he did win, he will have a Congress controlled completely by the GOP.

Actually this sounds like something Obama would be the head of after he left office.

There is still a part of me that thinks Obama may not run again. He may go instead for a world wide job. Something like this or Sec Gen of the UN. I really think he sees himself as too big for the Presidency.

FrogBurger said...

A gathering of phonies like Immelt, CEO of GE, which didn't pay any taxes.

Obama, Soros and those people are only interested in power in a very sick way.

Psychopathic way.

Leave us alone, villains and other new aristocrats.

Craig said...

Oh, yes, the guy who said "the main enemy of the open society, I believe, is no longer the communist but the capitalist threat"

Z, I think you would agree that context is important. This quote mine from Soros' 1997 piece in Atlantic Monthly is clearly meant to scare people who have never read the essay into thinking Soros wants to replace overthrow Capitalism with some kind of Socialist/Commie, one world economic system. What he is talking about is "the untrammeled intensification of laissez-faire capitalism and the spread of market values into all areas of life [that] is endangering our open and democratic society."

The reason he said laissez-faire capitalism is a bigger threat than Communism is because Communism was largely defeated and no longer the threat it once was.
"I want to emphasize, however, that I am not putting laissez-faire capitalism in the same category as Nazism or communism. Totalitarian ideologies deliberately seek to destroy the open society; laissez-faire policies may endanger it, but only inadvertently. Friedrich Hayek, one of the apostles of laissez-faire, was also a passionate proponent of the open society. Nevertheless, because communism and even socialism have been thoroughly discredited, I consider the threat from the laissez-faire side more potent today than the threat from totalitarian ideologies. We are enjoying a truly global market economy in which goods, services, capital, and even people move around quite freely, but we fail to recognize the need to sustain the values and institutions of an open society."

Craig said...

You should really read the whole thing. You can agree or disagree with it, but it gives a much clearer picture of who Soros is than the distorted caricature you'll get from the right wing conspiracy scare mongers.

The other thing I'll comment on is the supposed secrecy of this event. I, too, have problems with the media and their superficial treatment of serious issues. I think their real bias is towards ratings so why cover a major conference when Charlie Sheen is publicly melting down? Priorities. I hardly think the conference is being kept a secret, though. Inet is publicly promoting it. Compare that to the Koch Brothers annual fete for Righty politicians, sitting Supreme Court justices and the billionaires who own them. We never heard a peep about them for the last 8 years until Think Progress broke it. Those are the people that can actually enact public policy and they do to the bebefit of their wealthy overlords.

Compare those private, no cameras allowed meeting to the upcomming Bretton-Woods conference where all the speakers will be videotaped and available for view on their website. The participants will be available for interviews as well. When countries like China can manipulate it's currency to the detriment of everyone else or a relatively few bankers can create, out of thin air, Collaterallized Debt Obligations and Credit Default Swaps that nearly collapsed the world economy, maybe it's time some smart people got together to try and figure out a better way. It will be out in the open and you can accept or reject what they say.

Craig said...

I'll try that Koch Bros. link again.

Ducky's here said...

Volcker, Sachs, Stiglitz ... not exactly Lenin, Marx and Bakunin but the right is so insecure that anything scares them.

If Volcker is so radical, why did our supposed radical (LMAO) president completely ignore him?

Ducky's here said...

Nice try, Craig, but in z's world you get the Full Ayn Rand or nothing.

It's called Calvinism.

Mark said...

What's wrong with being the greatest country in the world? Isn't that all countries goal?

FrogBurger said...

It's called Calvinism.

Calvinism and Protestantism has built a hell of a republic in this world.

Unlike my own religion Catholicism, which killed, tortured, created a victim mindset and socialism in Europe.

Look in your own backyard, Dummy Ducky.

Z said...

AOW, read some of the quotes of Soros...some change, isn't it.

Chuck, I hope so. I think Obama sees himself as too tired for the presidency; I get the impression he begrudges the heavy schedules. Anything would be easier and at least he couldn't do as much harm. Although look at SOros.

FrogBurger, that GE paid zero tax is quite something, isn'it. out of FIVE BILLION can watch video of Immelt and Obama and poor Immelt looks like a deer in the headlights, like "okay, pal? Did I say the RIGHT THING?" every time he looks at him...sort of like Daniel Mudd m CEO of Fannie Mae, when he promised the BNC that "EVERYBODY will be given a chance at a new house" Oh, they were thrilled (and now all those who got those houses are suffering because they couldn't afford them) ...but I digress was only that fear and hope to please in Immelt's eyes that reminded me of the awful Mudd situation.

Mark, I'd have thought so...but no country even had it as a goal for the last 100 years or so. Every time I ask Ducky which country IS exceptional, when he says ours isn't or shouldn't be, he disappears for the day, so I think it's easy to say that but not easy to think it through.
We certainly are losing the status now...Obama's brought us to economic knees; perfect timing for anything Soros tries to pull here.

Elmers Brother said...

Duhkkky is the same nut that thinks drilling for oil has something to do with Calvinism. Now lets ask Ahmedenijad and Chavez when they became Baptists. Your paranoia is striking duhkkky. Perhaps you and Charlie Sheen were separated at birth.

Ticker said...

Sounds as if Soros is back to pushing for what once was called the Tobin Tax except he changed it into a creature from hell.
George Soros had taken the Tobin Tax a step farther and created what he calls SDRs, or Special Drawing Rights, which is the method by which the taxes would be distributed. SDRs are part of a country's official foreign exchange reserves. They serve as a means of payment among Fund members. IMF creates SDRs "through a process of allocation and distribution to IMF members (International Monetary Members, created by the UN)." Before the U.S. could become involved in this scheme, it would have to be implemented by the U.S. Congress.Soros sees in this pending SDR allocation a readily available means "to finance the provision of public goods on a global scale as well as to foster economic, social, and political progress in individual countries ..." (Richer countries would donate their SDR allocations to specific improvement projects in poorer countries. Poorer countries would keep their allocations as an addition to their monetary reserves. Can you say, redistribution of wealth?)

Projects worthy of funding proposed by poorer countries would win a place on an approved list created by an independent international board to be set up by the IMF. "Eminent persons"(rest assured that George Soros would be the appointer) appointed for fixed terms and free of control by their governments would make up this board.

Donor countries, using their SDR allocations, would choose to fund any program from the list created by the international board. But unlike the usual practice in traditional foreign aid, the donor countries would not control the programs. An audit commission, separate from the international board, would monitor and evaluate. Donors' choices would be made public. Soros would limit the initial round of eligible programs to a few high-priority areas such as public health, education, information technology, or judicial reform.

The IMF's international board would thus work roughly the way philanthropic foundations work. Poorer countries would submit a proposal to the board the way, say, a college now submits a proposal to, say, the Mellon Foundation. But the board's approval of a program would merely be an enabling act. A richer donor country, interested in giving its SDR credits to a poorer country, would have to step up and select a project for funding from the list of approved projects. In doing so, it would be agreeing to follow the rules established by the board and IMF. Those rules would aim at keeping the donor country from using the "grant" for its own political purposes; and they would aim to place responsibility for executing the program in the hands of locals who were not agents of their governments. So far this type of system has failed but regardless there are those who will continue to call for such redistribution of wealth.

FrogBurger said...

Perhaps you and Charlie Sheen were separated at birth.

No b/c Charlie Sheen has at least talent.

Ducky teaches about movies. And who can't do teaches, right?

Elmers Brother said...

Duhkkky is just trying to show Max Weber adherents he's got street cred. Evangelize somewhere else duhkkky somewhere that people believe if you say it enough times it must be true.

Craig said...
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Z said...

Craig, I don't insult you at your blog, don't do it here, thanks.

Elmers Brother said...

Duhkkky your needle is stuck

Chantilly Robinson said...

Thank You for speaking out. Our Country is falling apart and our Emperor is on Vacation

beamish said...

LOL Ducky!

As if everywhere Catholicism is dominant has lifted people out of poverty outside the gold encrusted gates of Vatican City.

beamish said...

movie time

FrogBurger said...


This video is freakin' awesome.

beamish said...

Saw it on TV here in the Midwest. Don't know if it's getting rotation all over the country, so... spread it :)

FrogBurger said...

It's on my facebook page.

Z said...

FB and Beamish: It's on my blog this afternoon....later on.
I'd seen it before but more people need to see it.

Major said...

No doubt he'll be shorting the dollar at the same time.

This guy is 10x's the horror Maddof was.

Z said...

Major, I couldn't agree with you more.

beamish said...

Thanx, Z.

I don't quite agree with the idea that China is going to dominate the US by 2030, but I'll elaborate further later when you have that post up.

Z said...

Beamish, not sure when I'll post it..probably Monday morning.
I've got my Sunday Faith Blog tomorrow, as usual.

BUT, you never know..........maybe late afternoon tomorrow? Thanks, I know you don't agree.

I think the only really stupid thing I ever heard Larry Elder say, at a dinner 2 months ago, was that we have plenty of land here and why not make billions of bucks selling it to the Chinese....the audience went silent.
You agree with that?

Anonymous said...

Yes, an "economic system in which America isn't so dominant" seems to a a common recurring theme amongst those who would "know better" the globalist elitists. Even avuncular old Warren Buffet is on board with this as he said not long ago on one of the daily business shows on CNBC, that America is the object of hatred in much of the world because of it "success". Seems that Ayn Rand would have recognized that as a despicable form of envy, no, Ducky?

On the subject of exposing scams in economics, I have to salute Glenn Beck, right here, right now for having the krunks to discuss the history of the Federal Reserve on his show last night with one of the foremost experts on the subject, G. Edward Griffin. Apparently his book "The Creature From Jekyll Island" is selling better than ever today ... better late than never, I guess.


Z said...

Waylon; I had never heard of that book (rotten title if you don't know where the names come from, kind of misleading?) so I Googled it at Amazon and found this:
"Where does money come from? Where does it go? Who makes it? The money magicians' secrets are unveiled. We get a close look at their mirrors and smoke machines, their pulleys, cogs, and wheels that create the grand illusion called money. A dry and boring subject? Just wait!

You'll be hooked in five minutes. Reads like a detective story - which it really is. But it's all true. This book is about the most blatant scam of all history. It's all here: the cause of wars, boom-bust cycles, inflation, depression, prosperity."

Have you read it yet?
I like the word "krunks", by the way :-) Whatever they are, Beck's got them and more.

What bothers me is where these dope Americans were schooled that they actually think Americans need to stop being QUITE so successful because other countries aren't happy! They're sure happy when we help them, aren't they.
Odd, because I believe our University kids are getting that same idiocy now from profs....and we hear Obama talking about how rich people don't need to be richer, and he says it in a thousand different ways.

What happened to the great America of unlimited success and unlimited big heart toward others?

the left

Anonymous said...

..."the fiercely capitalist Koch family owes part of its fortune to Joseph Stalin. Fred Koch was the son of a Dutch printer who settled in Texas and ran a weekly newspaper. Fred attended M.I.T., where he earned a degree in chemical engineering. In 1927, he invented a more efficient process for converting oil into gasoline, but, according to family lore, America’s major oil companies regarded him as a threat and shut him out of the industry. Unable to succeed at home, Koch found work in the Soviet Union..."

Yikes, Craig, being unable to pedal his oil refining process at home in America, Koch decides to head for another market. Because the American oil producers and refiners didn't want his product? Would that include Standard Oil and the Rockefellers, too? In the bizarre world we live in what if the Rockefellers were already ensconced on Moscow even before Koch arrived? How do you think Bolshevism was financed if it wasn't from 1 Karl Marx Plaza and the headquarters of Chase Manhattan Bank and the Rockefellers, right there in bloody merry old Moscow in the USSR?


Anonymous said...

Z, I do know the name comes from a resort island off the coast of Georgia. It's where the ultra-wealthy went for getaways back in the day.Folks like the Rockefellers, and Morgans and those types of riff raff.

I haven't read the complete book but I've read parts of it. One book that I'm in the process of reading on line and found it very topical today even though it was written back in the 1970's is "The Rockefeller Files". It shows how the smart set plays both sides of an argument like the Rockefellers have done since they set up their "charitable trusts".


Z said...

..."the fiercely capitalist Koch family owes part of its fortune to Joseph Stalin. Fred Koch was the son of a Dutch printer who settled in Texas and ran a weekly newspaper. Fred attended M.I.T., where he earned a degree in chemical engineering. In 1927, he invented a more efficient process for converting oil into gasoline, but, according to family lore, America’s major oil companies regarded him as a threat and shut him out of the industry. Unable to succeed at home, Koch found work in the Soviet Union..."

Waylon, isn't that funny?
If the guy went to the Soviet Union for work because he was shut out here, a liberal insinuates the Koch's are communists and should be looked at with alarm...when, really, when it's THEIR communists, that's just fine :-)
Good catch there, Waylon.

VERY interesting about the Rockefellers and I'm sure they're not alone...we see that kind of playing both sides with Buffet, Trump, etc.....(tho I know Trump loves this country and would put it first above all)....I've often wondered why some lefties support the right (tho it's much rarer than the opposite)...and's sure greed, I guess..buttering their own side of their bread.

I don't think of that when I think of AMerican politicians....I guess I need to grow up on that point!

Dan said...

I haven't read this string so excuse me if I mention something that has already been said. Have you heard of or seen one of the videos called "end of america" and a number? (For example: I am a skeptic at heart, but I also know that a nation can't simply print money and run trillion dollar deficits with no damage to its economy. This video claims that the end of America as we know it will happen this year when the US Dollar is removed as the world's reserve currency. Personally I've always seen Soros as Obama's puppeteer. I've never seen him as anything but a face and speech giver. This meeting would fit with the video's perditions I think, given that Soro's is known for weakening currencies. We shall see. I hope it is all hype, but as I said, you can't do what we're doing and get away with it. Congress needs veto override to take necessary steps and we don't have three trillion dollars worth of time left... IMHO.

Z said...

Dan, I could NOT agree with you more on your amazing comment....
Mr. Z used to say the same thing...Soros got rich on exactly what you say.......
and we were asleep...and the Obama thugs are moving in....

ONE WORLD ORDER...America's NOT great, it does NOT deserve to remain the exceptional country, etc etc.

God, wait till the world reaps what it's so stupidly sown. They will be SO SO SO SORRY.

MK said...

If obama has his way, you really will be far less of any force on the planet. The only silver lining is that there will be a lot of ungrateful bastards who'll finally have to deal with living on their own. A long overdue comeuppance, some would say.

Z said...

MK, my sentiment exactly...even our left will be sorry..."be careful what you ask for", right?

TheSkyisBlue said...
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Wookieee said...

George Soros is 0bama's puppet master.

Z said...

Wookiee.(HI!!) and YOU BET.

Anonymous said...

Waylon has said virtually the same thing I've kept trying to say all day. Why is it unacceptable coming from me? Is it just because it DOES come from me? That doesn't seem fair.

I know one person who would go ballistic at my point of view, but what should that matter? It's a legitimate point of view held by many even if you don't agree with it. Certainly it ought to be discussed rationally, as Waylon has done, and not censored out of existence.

Not trying to start any further trouble. Just expressing my opinion.


Z said...

Anonymous....I don't see the connection with what Waylon's saying and anything you have to say.

Need I remind you that Waylon has NEVER said anything like you did to me? I have never been told uglier things, or as ugly, in my private life...EVER.

I have asked you to leave yet you persist. I know every time it's you from my sitemeter and you're very lucky I didn't delete you from my SUnday Faith Blog.

I can't go through another of your coming backs and the way you simply can't abide by the rules and then attack me again.
This is my blog and I didn't build it for someone as disrespectful and unkind as you.

I'm very sorry, but you've come and gone and come and gone several times now and it always ends up a nightmare. I can't have it again. I won't be spoken to like that ever again.

Pris said...

Z, you're right. You have no other alternative.

Z said...

Pris, that's how I feel.
It gives me absolutely no pleasure to have to insist, believe me.