Saturday, March 12, 2011

EXTORTION, anyone?

Don't TELL me a union would threaten a business?  :-)   This is quite something.....maybe this is what unions call 'bargaining':

March 10, 2011
Mr. Tom Ellis, President
Marshall & Ilsley Corporation
770 N. Water Street
Milwaukee, WI 53202
SENT VIA FASCIMILE AND REGULAR MAIL
Dear Mr. Ellis:
As you undoubtedly know, Governor Walker recently proposed a “budget
adjustment bill” to eviscerate public employees’ right to collectively bargain in
Wisconsin. ..
As you also know, Scott Walker did not campaign on this issue when he ran for
office. If he had, we are confident that you would not be listed among his largest
contributors. As such, we are contacting you now to request your support.
The undersigned groups would like your company to publicly oppose Governor
Walker’s efforts to virtually eliminate collective bargaining for public employees in
Wisconsin. While we appreciate that you may need some time to consider this
request, we ask for your response by March 17. In the event that you do not
respond to this request by that date, we will assume that you stand with
Governor Walker and against the teachers, nurses, police officers, fire fighters,
and other dedicated public employees who serve our communities.

In the event that you cannot support this effort to save collective bargaining,
please be advised that the undersigned will publicly and formally boycott the
goods and services provided by your company. However, if you join us, we will
do everything in our power to publicly celebrate your partnership in the fight to
preserve the right of public employees to be heard at the bargaining table.
Wisconsin’s public employee unions serve to protect and promote equality and
fairness in the workplace. We hope you will stand with us and publicly share that
ideal.
In the event you would like to discuss this matter further, please contact the
executive Director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, Jim Palmer,
at 608.273.3840.
Thank you in advance for your consideration. We look forward to hearing from
you soon.
James L. Palmer, Executive Director
Wisconsin Professional Police Association
Mahlon Mitchell,President
Professional Fire Fighters
Jim Conway, President
International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311
John Matthews, Executive Director
Madison Teachers, Inc.
Keith Patt, Executive Director
Green Bay Education Association
Bob Richardson,  President
Dane County Deputy Sheriffs Association
Dan Frei, President
Madison Professional Police Officers Association

Z: and then we've got NPR telling donors that they can hide the amount they sent them from the Feds if they donate 'anonymously' (see my post just below)......The Left's really at it, aren't they?   But, where's CNN on these things?  The New York Times...?  I'm really ashamed of the fire fighters unions above.

z

38 comments:

Elmers Brother said...

You should see what the APWU ha been up to.

Elmers Brother said...

And who 'eviscerated' federal employees 'right' to collective bargaining? None other than the penultimate conservative Jimmy Carter in 1978.

Z said...

Hi, Elbro!
Tell us about the APWU when you've got the time...
Isn't this letter astonishing?
and a response of Q U I E T from the left, of course.

Elmers Brother said...

The APWU is negotiating a new contract as we speak. In an effort to throw some muscle around they trumped up some faux safety isssues, brought In OSHA, to wit the USPS was fined. Now the sorting machines are shut down unnecessarily while processing the mail and effectively causing a work slow down. OSHA merely took the word of employees and did not h e to witness these violations. Now the union tried to claim that mgmt ignored safety but its not true. I van say this because the union knows that the postal service will hang anyone high and dry for safety violations. The union didn't care about this issue until the USPS started talking about getting rid of Saturday delivery. The union is trying to squeeze blood from a turnip at this point.

Z said...

Ducky, what's Glenn Beck think of THIS?

Z said...

Elbro, this is shocking to me. I keep wishing SOMEBODY would be a whistle blower against the APWU and ALL unions..
but they are so tough and fight so DIRTY.
I guess Scott Walker is a whistle blower; and his reward will be recall, wait for it.
The left's spinning and spinning and the emotion they've stirred up leaves little opening for calm and understanding that he MUST DO what he did.

Gad, NPR getting anonymous donations so they can avoid the feds, unions extorting good businesses.....the kind of things you've told us here, Elbro.......what the.........??

And the left says the right fights dirty?, the Tea Party is out of control? REALLY?

Mustang said...

This is the same kind of racketeering the Rainbow/Push coalition has become famous for. It only works if businesses feel intimidated ... But in this case, such tactics might blow up in their faces.

If I was the CEO of a company, I'd want to do the right thing and count on the fact that most Americans can't remember much beyond 30 minutes ago.

Z said...

Mustang, it can only blow up in their faces if we have a media honest enough to disclose this...other than the conservative media which the leftwing has so maligned that some Americans can't see through that and get the truth.

I don't know if all of you remember, but before FOX was on the air, I remember CNN was mocking and teasing about an all conservative channel...I wasn't that political then and remember thinking how weird it was that CNN was doing that when the station hadn't even opened yet, but, while FOX has now far surpassed CNN's ratings, lots of America actually believe CNN IS 'the word'.....just like they think the NY Times is honest!

Anonymous said...

Z, great post.

This is exactly why public employees should NOT be allowed to unionize.

You have the police and firefighters involved in this threat. How motivated would the fire dept. be to put out a fire at this business should Mr. Ellis refuse to cooperate with the union?

Or the police if they were called to protect someone associated with this business?

This is nothing more than thuggery, and mob rule. God knows what other kinds of threats may be taking place under the radar.

As we know, both the firefighters and police were exempted from the bill which was passed. I believe, because they're needed to protect the citizens and because their jobs are high risk.

Obviously, when their union leaders say jump, they say, "how high?" I would've thought better of them. I was wrong.

Then there are the teachers, who have lost any high regard long ago, from my perspective. I came to take each of them as individuals, and no longer a respected group as I once had.

Today, not only do we see them lying to their students and the public, but crawling into windows, knocking down doors and storming the capitol building in Wisconsin like the thugs who order them to.

Furthermore, and I hope there are some Wisconsin parents who give a damn, their children are told, "go and demonstrate", "leave your classes and join this movement".

I haven't heard any public objection to using minor HS children to swell the ranks of union members, and to cause mayhem. Where are their parents? How can they allow this to happen?

Why, as I've heard, are the school administrations bowing to the union? Shutting down classes, and essentially, shutting down the schools?

These people are responsible for these children, and it goes without saying, so are the parents.

Why, when the teachers are taking the kids with them, not considered to be kidnapping them? Could they not be charged with that?

If I was a parent there, I would press charges, and I'd sue the teacher's union, the school administration, and the school board, for endangering my child, neglect, and fostering vandalism, if not outright violence.

If one student should get hurt, that's exactly what would happen, but the union doesn't care, and neither do the teachers, and I must say, it doesn't seem that too many parents do either.

Long ago it was the Mafia who had ties to the unions. Today it's the left, but nothing's changed. Thugs are thugs who will not take NO for an answer.

Oh, and one more thing, where's all that talk about civility, huh Mr. President? Helloooo? No, I didn't think so!

Pris

Elmers Brother said...

Though my state is a right to work state its effectively impossible to leave the APWU. It takes two minutes to sign up for the union yet to get out you have to send a request not more them 20 days and no less than 10 days of your union anniversary date via registered mail. If you moss that window they get your dues for a whole nother year.

Z said...

Pris, what about those doctors who gave fake notes to teachers to get them out of teaching so they could protest? All's quiet on that front.

Mustang's comment that Americans have a short attention span normally only applies to leftwing mistakes because the media makes sure they disappear...while they harp continuously on any possible rightwing indiscretion.

Elbro, the unions are so strong and powerful it's scary. I hope Americans are starting to see them for what they are : THUGS. That's why the Obama people are so quiet on this, and there's word they've been behind much of this: Thugs know and appreciate THUGS.

beamish said...

As you also know, Scott Walker did not campaign on this issue when he ran for office.

Actually, Governor Walker did campaign on this "issue" extensively.

He did exactly what he said he was going to do.

Anonymous said...

"Pris, what about those doctors who gave fake notes to teachers to get them out of teaching so they could protest? All's quiet on that front."

Oh that's right Z. I forgot about that.
Too much corruption, so little time!

Pris

Ducky's here said...

Z: and then we've got NPR telling donors that they can hide the amount they sent them from the Feds if they donate 'anonymously'

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It's tax deductible. Why would you want to hide it?

Major said...

Apparently they imported Jesse Jerkson for the sole purpose of writing their extortion demands. He is an expert at blackmail.

Dems...the second most dangerous terrorists after even the moooslim loons.

Ducky's here said...

I don't know what Glenn thinks of it but I'm not surprised that a cop would send the letter.

Now, I can't speak for all parts of the country but in Massachusetts cops will steal anything that isn't nailed down. They are a large part of the reason (along with the disability scams the fire fighters run) that we have some fiscal problems.

But make no mistake, the target is teachers (the cops are just afraid their gravy train is next) and the movement is intent on privatizing the schools. Too much money going to educate minorities and retards, right? So we need to invoke the magic hand of the "free market" (LMAO) to make sure that expense is eliminated so we can give the boys more free chips for the Wall Street Casino.

If you want to see this get real ugly, ask the cops to make some sacrifices.

Z said...

Ducky! Killing the messenger AGAIN! Are you that intellectually dishonest?> You can see the list of signers and blame a cop for writing it....there ARE decent, informed cops, you know..but easier to slam him than pay attention.
then you say

"I don't know what Glenn thinks of it but I'm not surprised that a cop would send the letter."

Good that you finally care what Glenn thinks.....Anybody with ANY decency would recognize extortion. You DON'T? REALLY?

Then you say "But make no mistake, the target is teachers (the cops are just afraid their gravy train is next) and the movement is intent on privatizing the schools. Too much money going to educate minorities and retards, right?"

First, we don't call handicapped kids 'retards' ...also, it's funny, but the Christian schools I know are FULL of minorities and most of them aren't paying much tuition, either. The school whose Advisory Board I'm on overdoes that, in my opinion.

And, it's the only school EVER that I"ve seen black and white kids sitting together studying, talking, in the amazing musicals each Spring.......I've never seen that in public school...and I see a lot of them.
Privatization must happen, so we can get American schools back on board...with only the best teachers and pair them up with parents who care...THEN we'll have success. Not with the absolutely RIDICULOUS leftwing crap about "More money means better schools" :-)

Z said...

Ducky, i just saw your comment further above.
PLEASE...LISTEN TO THE VIDEO, THEN talk, okay? You'd want to hide Muslim Brotherhood connections, you'd want to hide other groups your donor supports...my gosh, that's so obvious.

Z said...

http://visiontoamerica.org/story/npr-admits-to-obama-birther-coverup.html

there's the audio of the NPR woman who said NPR decided not to cover the birth certificate because it's a conservative viewpoint, I'm not posting it, or anytime soon at least, there's too much else to cover.

Ducky's here said...

z, your obsession with the Muslim Brotherhood is fascinating. I'm sure you believe there is a move afoot to bring PBS and NPR under Brotherhood control.

So what happens? Five times a day NPR broadcasts the adhan?

Now if the Brotherhood can make the donation anonymously don't you think they know that? Fact is that no donations were made (PBS wouldn't even meet with them) and the comments made about the Tea Party are very ironic in view of O'Keefe's white supremacist associations.

He has quite a background and you should be more concerned about being manipulated by someone that vulgar rather than getting all crazy about this imaginary Muslim take over.

Our attitude toward the MB is probably going to cause some damage. Many groups in Egypt, including woman's groups, want them in the government because they believe that allowing their participation and allowing public debate of their ideas is a way to defuse the idea of an Islamic government. Some of what they advocate will be accepted and they will have to evolve to understand parliamentary participation, something they have been moving towards.

So as we accept the hysterical image we push the MB further into the shadows and further into radicalization. Foolish.

As for taking over NPR, to absurd. I would suggest you look into O'Keefe's background and consider what kind of vile hit men Breitbart hires and just who is the danger here.

Anonymous said...

"O'Keefe's white supremacist associations."


Really? And just who would they be?

Are they any different than the thousands of myriad and many minority supremacist groups? Like La Raza, the MB, the MSA, SPLC, Rainbow coalition, NAN?

When it comes to representation or any "white" organizations that represent the white minority ( like in LA, Detroit, Camden. Newark, San Antonio, Houston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Atlanta and just about every other major urban city in America ) are hard pressed to find one.

Matter of fact LA just dropped AA....cause it's whites that are in the minority and need AA now!!! But they said...ahhhh...we don't need that anymore.

Bit lets not talk about those riots in Boston not so long ago....hey?

That ole cradle of "liberty and tolerance".

Bwanney Fwanks kind of tolerance.

Z said...

Ducky!! calm down. Can you show me where I said that I fear that the MB is TAKING OVER NPR!? are you KIDDING? :-)
I guess that's one way to divert attention from all the information you're getting.
I guess you still didn't listen to the audio...sad.

You're here so much yet you get so little of what I say and misinterpret and obfuscate and, actually, LIE about my opinions....HEY! WAIT A MINUTE...DO YOU WORK FOR NPR?! MSNBC? Did I guess it? Because they're SO good at that, too!

And, yes, as Anonymous says below your comment, let's see O'Keefe's associations with WHITE SUPREMACISTS! Who the hell knows any White Supremacists, anyway? that cracks me UP.
And, by the way, you think Breitbart's a White SUpremacist, too?

WE are pushing the MB 'further into radicalization'? Ducky, NOBODY here is an idiot, we know we don't want to push these extremist murdering terror groups to the limit; but when you back down, when you follow the leftwing garbage, doing exactly what they expect you to do to progress as the left turns a blind eye, that's a naivite that's breathtaking.

There has to be SOME kind of bridge between the terrorist islamists and an Egyptian government, I believe that...sad, but true....like Hamas is in the ME.. why do you think Hamas supports the poor, etc., to be nice?
yikes....and your type votes.
No offense, ducky, that's spooky.

Z said...

By the way, Ducky,
what i do fear is that the leftwing news outlets are getting so far into illegalities and protecting terrorists that they all go down...or WE do.

Chuck said...

Duck,

Too much money going to educate minorities and retards, right?

Did you go to public school Duck? Your picture doesn't make you look like your a minority...

Z, I actually don't have a huge problem with the union doing this. Groups of all political persuasion run boycotts of companies.

If I have an issue with it, it is that they take money from workers who have no right to refuse to pay the dues and spend it on activities that the employees have no say in what it is spent on.

Often union leaders make political stances that many of their members do not agree with. I would like to see two things

-make union membership, and the payment of dues that goes with it, voluntary

-allow employees to opt out of having their money used for political advocacy. The unions would then only be allowed to use the percentage of the dues that have been approved by employees that wished to have their dues spent in this way.

Major said...

"we know we don't want to push these extremist murdering terror groups to the limit..."


Ummmm....excuse me Ms. Z but would that be:

Why do these Muslim slugs make these obviously false allegations? Because it works! Not with those who’ve become wise to their game but to the vast majority of useful idiots, Obama, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Geraldo Rivera come to mind, who trip over themselves to avoid recognizing the obvious.

Then, though perhaps far more subtle, there’s the underlying threat of violence that accompanies any threat to Muslim hypersensitivities.

So, no, I’m not a coward but you stupid, racist, bigoted, imperialist, Islamophobes, purveyors of terror and violence around the world, had just better watch out what you say about “the religion of peace.

And you, you western pig, what are you going to do about what was just said?

Freedom of speech don’t you know and so what if it’s only exercised in the absence of the threat of violence. This is the culture of fear and intimidation that we live in and it will not end until those expert in its implementation get to feel what it’s like by getting some return hell fire from the West.

They do not fear us because they’ve been allowed to perpetuate violence and lies with impunity. How do we stop it?

1. Face the threat head on. Declare war on Islam.
2. Expel ALL Muslims from any Government post.
3. Actively and openly search all Mosques and monitor their “religious” activities.
4. Those that don’t comply or found to be complicit are shut down, torn down or confiscated for community use.
5. Muslims that rise up to protest? Deport the bastards.
6. Stop admitting ALL Muslims into the country.
7. Shut down ALL Muslim Brotherhood front groups currently operating with impunity in the U.S.
8. Isolate and ostracize. Look how a far more drastic and violent approach is working for them, a backward, ignorant, repressive, intolerant society that is standing the modern, far more powerful, far more civilized West on its collective head or, more aptly, on its knees.


Last time I looked advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government was illegal but that apparently doesn’t apply when that advocacy is cloaked in the sinister shroud of a complete, judicial, cultural, political system masquerading as a “religion of peace.”

If the West does not cast off the blinders of political correctness, multiculturalism and blind religious tolerance and shed its propensity for self flagellation we will all be bowing towards Mecca or paying the Jizya, scrubbing Muslim out houses and eating their putrid, halal garbage. It’s gonna be too late to “turn the other cheek.” The West is rushing headlong down the narrow path of dhimmitude being effectively established by its entrenched, self imposed, knee jerk reaction to prolific Muslim outrage; it’s time for “an eye for an eye.”


We...will lose...unless we do what's necessary.

I will not to choose to apologize for my passion...my verbosity nor my ferocity. I know moooslims...I know they're goals and hatred of America. I know their goals.

We stupid , fat , ignorant Americans can't see what horror lies before us. Am I talking "Armageddon"? Yes....the annihilation of Christian - Judeo values put forth by our founders.

Proof...look at the christian in Iraq...now Egypt. War is inevitable and necessary to preserve this failing Republic.

Major said...

Oh and Ms. Z...with all due respect...it seems we need to be reminded time and time again of these tidbits that I received from another Marine ( Randy ) today.



REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of Pan Am Flight 103!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine Barracks in Lebanon!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Military Barracks in Saudi Arabia!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE!

REMEMBER the MUSLIM attacks on 9/11/2001 !

REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks!


Pearl Harbor was enough for us 70 years ago to wage a war of attrition that lasted four years. Today we act like imbeciles who have no goddamn idea how to kill every mooooslim that needs to be and deserved to be killed ( they all clapped and cheered over these atrocities ) and obliterated.

Do I hate moooslims? Do I need any other reasons than what I've listed?

Mustang and I dedicated our lives to the defense of America...we know what needs to be done.

Anonymous said...

Stow it with your propaganda, Ducky. It's obvious that everyone who get's too close and is wise to you and your comrades, get's vilified.

Really, thuggery, and discrediting anyone who's figured you all out, is your MO. You don't know anything else. You've been indocrinated, and led down that leftist garden path.

You don't think for yourself and haven't for a long time until now, you couldn't if you tried.

Basically, useful drones like you are a dime a dozen. So, insult away, it's meaningless here. It should be obvious to you, but, like I said, you can't think for yourself.

Pris

Z said...

Chuck, they do this so openly, so threateningly? really?


Major..."the evening marauder"

Sometimes I think you really don't read any of my posts or comments, Major...it always feels like you're trying to convince ME America has a problem with islamist extremists. geeez

Major said...

"Basically, useful drones like you are a dime a dozen."


Hats off Ms. Pris...I salute you. You and Ms. Z are some brave women that get it.

However with inflation....duckydoo's dime ain't worth a red cent.

He's a POS, sure and simple.

Major said...

"Major..."the evening marauder"


Well...yes I am Ms. Z. During the day I work at a local VFW. I listen to guys who have Purple Hearts, one Medal of Honor winner...and many from vets from Nam. And now...Iraq and Afghanistan...who all know what islime is about.

My intent is to keep reminding those that may tend to forget...or offers sympathy to islamist scum. Period. 16,500 mooslim attacks on the West.

Right now...I'm listening to Brigette Gabriel.

We all should tune in to "Act for America".

Major said...

Michele Bachmann's illiteracy. This what we don't need. A pol who can't get our history right. Should we be surprised knowing that America and her history isn't a priority in today's schools?

Here's what the dope said:

""What I love about New Hampshire and what we have in common is our extreme love for liberty," the potential GOP presidential candidate said. "You're the state where the shot was heard around the world in Lexington and Concord. And you put a marker in the ground and paid with the blood of your ancestors the very first price that had to be paid to make this the most magnificent nation that has ever arisen in the annals of man in 5,000 years of recorded history."

Not good for women is it?

Z said...

Major, tell me you made that up.

By the way, what's your opinion of Palin?

Major said...

"Major, tell me you made that up."


Ms. Z...really. Why would I? Even a dope like Ducky knows this to be false. Lexiington and Concord...were in Massachusetts for gods sake NOT in New Hampshire!!!

As a child...my grandparents ( my grandfather a WW1 vet ) would take me all over New England to respect and revere my heritage at 10 years old.

Here's what the dummy said and quoted by Real Clear Politics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com )....

And I'm sure Matthews and the other scumbags will delight in it...something we cannot afford to mistake...

"In fact, the 1775 Battles of Lexington and Concord that marked the first military engagements of the American Revolution took place in Massachusetts. But Bachmann did not correct her error when she referenced the battles again later in her speech.

Bachmann's contorting of a basic fact about the fight for American independence was made all the more glaring because of her repeated references throughout her speech to the nation's founding."

Major said...

"By the way, what's your opinion of Palin?"


Palin? I adore her...I'd kiss the ground she pees on...let alone walks on. She's a GD hero...has the future of American in her vision. Of course she's flawed. But I'd take her over a Rommney, Newt and all the other refried toads of the "White mans" GOP. I'm sick of these retreads that think they have the "grandfather" thing going for them. They lack vision ...they lack direction...they are encumbered by IOU's and big money. They're crippled by corporate interests....they're the enemies of the middle class. Of you and me.

It ain't about power with Palin which is what makes the libbie scumbag loons shit their pants. She's about America...guns....individual rights.....she is AMERICA.

If she was the CIC.....I'd lay down my life for her.

We need Sarah to say.."Go to hell" to the GOP. We need another party. We need someone who appeals to 80% of god fearing, America loving loyalists.

Major said...

Wake up.....


"CAIR is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood. The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood. The North American Islamic Trust (NAIT) is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood. The Muslim Students Association (MSA) is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood. Hamas is the Muslim Brotherhood. And the Muslim Brotherhood spawned Egyptian Islamic Jihad and subsequently al-Qaeda.

These are just a few of the men running the Islamic mosques, schools, campus organizations, and charities in the United States. They are all avowed jihadists and see no distinction between Palestinian “resistance” and al-Qaeda terrorism. The entire apparatus of U.S.-Muslim dialogue is controlled by our enemies. And we have accepted this — so much so that to acknowledge this reality is political suicide.

It’s time to address this. Embassies have been burned, diplomats and newspaper editors have cowered, cartoonists have been hunted down, film directors have been hacked, operas have been canceled, and books have been taken off the shelf. We are losing the Enlightenment out of fear of offending others. Canada is flirting with Islamic law. Europe is allowing “group rights” in unassimilated Muslim ghettos. That is to say, their democratic constitutions do not apply for those who wish to abide by Islamic law. Therefore, the legality of murdering one’s daughter differs depending on what country you originally come from, or your personal convictions about the truths of the universe."


Islam....must die in the US.....Islam is a formidable enemy. Do you argee?

Opus #6 said...

Great issue, Z.

Thanks for shining a light on these slimy slugs.

Z said...

Major, I asked rhetorically, of course, because I was hoping you got it wrong.

I was a Palin fan, too...she's made comments that last few months that have shown me very different; though she says the right things about the country and probably knows about Lexington. But, maybe not.

MK said...

It's not extortion if the leftist scum do it, they're just breaking some eggs to make an omelet you see. The ends justify the means.