Wednesday, October 15, 2008

"..even FOX disputes it" Excuse me?

UPDATE: October 18...Yahoo killed the photo, folks.
I don't know what's going on..it's never happened to me but once since my blog opened at the end of January this year and it's happened twice in one day now.

"...EVEN FOX?" Wait a minute, you mean that FOX, Senator Obama, that same FOX that always has a liberal point of view on every subject? You mean that FOX, unlike CNN, which always presents different sides? THAT FOX? Your implication was..........what, when you said "even FOX disputes it?" Republicans, do you WANT a man like this for your president? Should America? It's a downright LIE that FOX is "so Conservative". Ever watch Wolf Blitzer? Candy Crowley? ANY OF THEM? Okay, liberals who read this blog; you tell me one conservative with a show on CNN and I'll stop complaining about the liberal media FOREVER, okay?

Line of the night by Mr. McCain (whom Obama called "JOHN" for 3/4 of it, then "SENATOR McCAIN" the last 1/4, right?)..."Senator Obama, I AM NOT President Bush...if you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run 8 years ago."

I was stunned at Schieffer's question to Obama after hearing a McCain statement .." ..you take issue with that?" WHAT? How's about Barack telling the moderator if he takes issue with something.....Schieffer PRODS him?? WHY?

By the way...WHO KNEW? I'd never heard of this "Troops for Teachers" program "JOHN" mentioned there at the end. Imagine BARACK letting our troops NEAR our kids? "Teach them to love this country?????? ARGH!"

So......having said all that........I thought this was McCain's best campaign. I think Obama's so slick and such a liar (yes, I said liar) that it doesn't really matter how many good points McCain made. What do you think? I'm past caring, frankly.

By the way....did ACORN, too, get thrown under the bus? That bus is QUITE some big bus, huh?
Now.....tell me......................let's get some comic relief: What would you like to see as a caption on the photo above?


z

42 comments:

Karen Townsend said...

I totally agree with you on the line of the night. It's in my upcoming post. And, Fox has called the debate for Obama, just like the others.

Rich Galen, whom we both enjoy reading, disagrees. Read his current newsletter. It's good. I, too, btw, enjoyed a bottle of wine as I watched. Just in case I needed a bit of help getting thru it all!

Anonymous said...

Well, McCain won this, if there is such a thing as winning a debate.
The news people are really trying to prop up Mr. Empty Suit, who has been whining and screeching racism more and more lately.

Yes, the I am not George Bush was most excellent, Z.
You are right, it will become repeated as this Senator Government is too.

McCain is not a showy flashy person, that's all.

Obama is tried to act cool, but he was rattled.

This guy is not that smart.
But yep,. the media is going all out to help Obama .
Sickening.


I will vote for McCain and I think McCain will win.

If Obama was so darned far ahead in his polls, then why do they all keep calling everything for him?
PURE BS.

He is not ahead, if anything, the candidates are tied and Obama and Company are sweating it now.

Look, These debates are not the place for red meat, like some want to see, but McCain comes across as an older statesman.
Obama and his grins and swarminess turn a lot of people off, he reeks of it.

Just honest opinion of an every day person.

As for the talking heads on Fox News, who cares what they think?

Maybe the whole media networks mess will collapse, we can sure hope so.

Pathetic.

With the internet, who needs them, really?

WVDOTTR

Anonymous said...

What was McCain and Obama saying in the picture??/
Hmmm.

No telling, but I did see a printing of transcripts at a news place after Bush -Dukakis debate.
Tell you what, the same old crap, folks, almost word for word and Dukakis was just brilliant they said.

And oh, good old David Gergen was saying such things.

Man, you can't make this stuff up.

WVDOTTR

Right Truth said...

Obama did lie about ACORN, about Ayers, about abortion , but McCain did not come back and point this out.

The line about not being Bush was the take-away.


Debbie Hamilton
Right Truth

Anonymous said...

The first thing I thought when O defended himself regarding ACORN was, 'That's one BIG BUS!!!'
He's so bold. He's beyond denying things now. He just runs over the people who have gotten him where he is. And even worse?? They probably don't mind!

I liked the line you quoted for McCain, and I wish he'd had many more like it. There are so many one liners he could use to slam O.

A caption?
John, thank you for not breaking my chicken neck out there!

Anonymous said...

I just watched a re-airing of the debate as I couldn't be home for the live one.

I thought McCain was great. He put Obama on the defensive a couple of times, and I thought it was obvious when he was uncomfortable.

I must admit I was pleasantly surprised at McCain's performance.
The media response in saying Obama won is certainly lost on me.

Pris

Average American said...

As I point out in tonights post, JOE THE PLUMBER won! How much free advertising did he get, with his name being used 26 times! And the good news is that he slyly and secretly endorsed McCain/Palin! You have to read between the lines, but I guarantee Joe is voting for our ticket.

In the picture, NOBAMA is asking Mac how much they should charge Joe for the 26 plugs.

psi bond said...

When the photo was taken, McCain was telling Obama, “Good job! Good Job!”

Z: Okay, liberals who read this blog; you tell me one conservative with a show on CNN and I'll stop complaining about the liberal media FOREVER, okay?

Bill Bennett (who is perhaps best known for his statement, "it's true that if you wanted to reduce crime ... you could abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down.") is hosting a new show called “Beyond the Politics” on CNN Saturday and Sunday.

I’ve done my part of the bargain. Now you do yours, Z.

psi bond said...

You can get your T-shirts saying “I’m Joe the Plumber” at cafepress.com. If Joe Wurzelbacher, aka Joe the Plumber (who would be taxed 3% more than the current rate if he bought the business in an Obama administration) is getting royalties for the T-shirt, he is rich.

Maybe now, he’ll tell us whom he’s voting for. Suddenly he’s like the Gary Cooper character in Frank Capra’s classic 1941 movie “Meet John Doe”. Everyone wanted to know his political opinions.

Speaking to FoxNews, Mr Wurzelbacher said McCain did a "fine job" and said Obama did well too, though added "talk is talk".

He still thinks Mr Obama's tax plan would keep him from buying the business, whereas Mr McCain had "got it right as far as I go".

Nonetheless, Mr Wurzelbacher declined to reveal how he would vote in the election on November 4.

"Only me and the lever knows," he said.

Anonymous said...

The fact that Obama is a liar is a well-documented fact, only not by the MSM.
Good background z. The picture is sickening though. What's with the caressing brush of lips all the time? Gag.

psi bond said...

It’s not like McCain does not lie. For instance, McCain asserted that Barack Obama "once suggested bombing our ally, Pakistan." In fact, Obama stated: "If we have actionable intelligence about high-value terrorist targets and President Musharraf won't act, we will."

Misfit410 said...

That photo is just.. wow..

the caption should be..

"Let me see if I can change your mind about gay marriage big daddy McCain.... the HARD way..."

Rita Loca said...

The stupidist line by Obama, which i wish McCain had jumped on, was saying he voted against banning Partial Birth Abortion because the legislation did not include protection for the mother's health. At that late stage the child could be delivered and have a fighting chance!
McCain should have pointed this pout as he graphically described Obama voting for the removal of a child from the womb, head only, sticking the scissors in the base of the skull, and collapsing the head before complete delivery. Talk about torture, Obama....

Ducky's here said...

I thought Obama did well. He can't really cut loose, we know the angry black man is still going to scare the clientele.

So the brother is cool. The brother is so cool that even Shaft looks angry next to him.

McCain just looks old and in the way.

Ducky's here said...

I enjoyed McCain's stumble right out of the blocks.

"The catalyst for this housing crisis was the Fannie and Freddie Mae that caused subprime lending situation that now caused the housing market in America to collapse."

It's Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, bobo. Remember those two entities? They're the ones you told a black questioner in debate #2 that he probably hadn't even heard of. McCain really is limited.

Anonymous said...

WV DOTTR, I love the way you express yourself. Truly do --- and find myself agreeing with you most of the time --- rare for an old contrarian like me, who prefers to prompt more debate rather than shout AMEN!

I've been annoyed at the way FOX (especially Blowhard Bill O'Reilly) keeps bending over backwards being gracious and receptive to sworn enemies of conservatism.

Will no one EVER learn that trying to make Brownie Points with D'Rats wins Republicans nothing but a series of slaps in the face and swift kicks in the shin?

If you don't want to believe that, look what happened to President Bush, who started off trying to be nice to everyone, and has wound up looking like a whipped mutt from an animal shelter meekly waiting to be put to sleep.

I was turned off at the beginning of last night's event, because McCain seemed so weak and halting, almost as though he admitted defeat before he began. And I HATED the way he felt obliged to mention Mrs. Reagan's recent mishap, because it had NOTHING to do with the crucial issues at hand.

In fact I dislike all these formal, formulaic statements of "gratitude" to whomever hosts and sponsors the debate. I believe it would be far better to get down to brass tacks right away.

Obama is incredibly boring. His Mr. Bland act has gotten very old.

I wound up respecting McCain far more, because awkward as he was he at least showed some PASSION.

Obama appeared so overconfident that he felt he could afford to sleepwalk his way through the proceedings. His droning verbosity is devoid of any sense of real connection with the issues he so glibly discusses. I think his "handlers" have told him he MUST appear as the antithesis of Jeremiah Wright and all his other radical, lunatic, criminal, bomb-throwing, subversive, anti-American associates,

Frankly the ONLY "debate" that has struck me as worthwhile was the first one sponsored by Saddleback Church. I think separating the two candidates and asking each of them to answer an identical set of questions proved to be more revealing than these staged, choreographed, tightly controlled, pseudo-confrontations. The Saddleback event was not only revealing, it was refreshing.

FreeThinke

Anonymous said...

CAPTION:

Obama: I've got a suite booked at the Mayflower, John. I'd like to see you there, so we can slip into something more comfortable and really get to know each other. You know you want to!

McCain: I'm so honored that you would think of me in that way, Barack. Could I bring Cindy along --- only as an observer, of course?

FT

Papa Frank said...

I thought it was very telling that Barack had nothing to say about John exposing his outright lie about public financing. Obama has NO standards so if something is not politically expedient then out the window it goes. Power at any cost and NO character with which to wield it.

Anonymous said...

Remember this list when you think or talk about OBAMA:


1. Commie Mommy

2. African Savage Muslim Daddy

3. Frank Marshall

4. Ayers & Dohrn

5. Jeremiah Wright

6. Black Liberation Theology

7. Father Pfleger

8. "Community Organizer"

9. ACORN

10. Mommy's second dark husband, the Muslim Soetero

11. Muslim Childhood in Indonesia

12. Columbia & Harvard Universities (Red Breeders both)

J.J.J. Schmidt

Anonymous said...

My friends, I sorry to say it but it's all over.
John just did not hit it over the fence.
Not that he didn't give it his best, but his best was not good enough for the lying, cheating, Marxist, phoney, racist, elitist Hussein Obama

Anonymous said...

We can talk about Ayers & Dohrn, Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson, and ACORN all day long but it just don’t seem to matter.

Z said...

Psi Bond...Please supply an article about his having a permament show on CNN, that was my question. FOX has apparoximtaely 20 liberal consultants on all day long when the Right discusses anything. Bill Bennett has had a few minutes on 'panels' about twice a week for a while now. What show does he have?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/fundrace-cnns-bill-benn_n_84608.html

This article above is hilarious! CNN has Bill Bennett on last February as a consultant and he's in trouble because he gave money to MCCain and Romney!? In other words...one can be a consultant on CNN IF you have no ties to conservatism. You can't have given your own money to a campaign and still be able to talk politics on CNN!
Sean Hannity gives money to the conservatives....Alan Colmes gives money to the Left....FOX doesn't question that they can do a good job! Bob Beckel, the resident lefty at FOX doesn't give money to the Left!?

Does anybody here think Wolf Blitzer does five MINUTES of unprejudiced reporting? of course not! It's all agenda-driven.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200601060003

This article mentions how hard MEdiaMatters worked to get Robert Novak off CNN!! You can't make this stuff up!! They cannot have a CNN permament show by a conservative...it's just anathema to their agenda.
proven my point. sad.

Papa...NO. Obama NEVER addressed his involvement with Fanny or Freddie....he was VERY well primed; they knew it would come up. And Schieffer never brought his feet to that most important fire of the night. "olly olly oxen free"

Obama's a young snake oil salesman and what I'm learning from the comments after the debate here and on television is this: CHARACTER DOES NOT MATTER. NO WAY, NO HOW.

People STILL haven't digested Ayers, etc etc...I'm tired of typing their names. The man has such terrible alliances and NOBODY CARES> I believe people are either dishonest, or they don't understand those people have never honored the real America.

Please stay tuned for the Obama comments about FOX. Do you want a president who's that nasty over conservatism? He makes NO bones at how he feels. I think I'll post it right now.

We need a grown man with a background without radical anti-American nuts.

Obama even denied the campaign function in Ayers' house....but not TOO vociferously..did you notice? "...come on now.." Ya, Barry, YOU come on.

Gayle said...

Z, when McCain called Obama "Senator Government", that was a good one too! LOL! Don't know whether it was on purpose or a subconscious slip of the tongue, but it was beautiful!

I don't place any stock in the pundits or the polls. As for Schiefer, at least he came up with some original questions. This debate was much better than the last one.

The caption for your photo: McCain is thinking "where's my pit bull? I need her to break this up!" ;)

Anonymous said...

Yes, nobody cares, I have to agree with Bob 100 percent, no home run was hit last night.
A good try, but no cigar.

Papa Frank said...

Funny that I've seen photos from the event in Ayers living room and yet Barry-O said it was a lie.

Misfit410 said...

"It's Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, bobo. Remember those two entities? They're the ones you told a black questioner in debate #2 that he probably hadn't even heard of. McCain really is limited."

He is, and Obama is not, he knows Fannie Mae inside and out, and that is the problem..

elmers brother said...

you tell me one conservative with a show on CNN

Glenn Beck

elmers brother said...

but for each conservative on Fox you'll also get a liberal

Colmes et al there is almost always a counterpoint

Who are Katie Couric's, Matt Lauers or Gibson's counter point?

Z said...

Gee, thanks, Elbro. (?)

To be honest, Glenn Beck is not on our normal CNN channel here....he's on CNN Headlines, which you'd have to find... He's the only one. Sorry, but one could watch our LA CNN all day long and never find a conservative host for 2 minutes.

LA Sunset said...

//you tell me one conservative with a show on CNN

Glenn Beck//


But Glenn has just signed onto FOX for a 5PM show, so now it's back down to zilch for CNN.

Z said...

Bill Bennett might be a consultant...I'd be happy to see he has a show on CNN...I looked and it's not on Google.

Karen...FOX is as much in the bag for Obama as CNN is, if possible.

WV..very interesting that Dukakis got the same kudos....he sure flunked out afterwards!

Debbie and Pinky...LIES LIES LIES...Obama is the KING. And he's like Biden; the BIGGER the lie the WIDER the smile, you notice that?

I love that JOe has the dignity and honor not to come out for either candidate, don't you all?
Some of the Tshirts are saying something like "Joe ought to go to Washington and kick out all the DRIPS!"

I'm for Joe and Sarah. Kick the rest out! LOL

My husband has asked me not to divulge our business, the size, the nature, but suffice it to say, if Joe has any brains, he knows he can't vote for Obama..talk is talk. They get one nowhere. He sees the truth, Joe's no dummy, apparently.

Bob and Papa...nobody seems to care about CHARACTER anymore but Republicans. it's difficult to hear voters actually stick only to the issues when character, the choices one makes, the acquaintances one has, the people who admire one, should be PARAMOUNT. Issues are BS. Issues will change drastically with the moment and we'll have a hideous Dem congress to decide our issues for us..we're just pawns. At least with a president with CHARACTER, we can try to move this country forward in the way our founding fathers hoped we'd move it.

Misfit! You keep referring to me as G and I"m always convinced you think you're at another website! It's Z, you know that (LOL!)

Elbro...for every conservative a liberal..you're right. On CNN..ZILCH. The WHOLE PANELS after the debates have been liberals...you'd think they'd get bored from the echo chamber of agreement. .maybe it's just a matter of an inability to think critically?

Anonymous said...

Well, guess the New York Times should stop giving campaign advice to John McCain. They have been telling John that those negative attacks were just turning people off, etc.
Now, Gallup has John McCain only 2 points behind Obama ( which I think might not be true. maybe John is actually 2 points ahead?)

The debate has not even been factored in yet.

And the All Star Panel at Fox might be shocked to hear, most people think McCain beat Obama last night in the debate.

Oh, by the way, Lord Obama is saying he will decree that Carbon Dioxide shall be off limits in the future, guess we can all stop breathing to help save the planet.



And by the way, some snot nosed punk sitting there and snickering, laughing as an older man who we know is a moral and incredibly brave man speaks , is just seen by most regular Americans as plain old smart alecky and disprespectful.

This type of thing shows people so much about a candidate.

That event last night was not the place to throw red meat at the crowd. It had to be done in a dignified manner, this showing of the real Obama.

I think McCain mastered it well.


Maybe , looking at the picture, Z posted, McCain was sniffing those cigarettes old Bam Bam uses and says, you know, those things cause cancer, kid.

Anyhow, I am reading FBI is into the Acorn registration investigations and more is coming out about the blatant attempt by some entities to cheat their way into the office of president.




Yes, call it what it is..CHEATING.


WVDOTTR

Z said...

WV Dottr...you give me hope.

and you're so right: CHEATING. Cheating his way into the WH.

what damage this man and his puppet masters have done to this country already.

Anonymous said...

That is my job. If I give some hope, great.
I think I am only speaking the truth.


Personally, I think John McCain knows what he is doing and is setting up Bam Bam.



He went to military college, he knows and studies strategy, he plays chess.



Don't you think last night , that Bam Bam had to be sitting there thinking..will John Bring up My buddy Bill , or, will he talk about Acorn, or, maybe he will talk about Barney Frank and Freddie or maybe ....


That Obama has some serious issues , kids. He does not really play well with others, and nurses grudges.


He has practically threatened to get FoX News .

I wonder if I threw water on Bam Bam if he would melt.



Well, Obama has come a calling to West Virginia, I read some place today. Whew doggies, that ought to be something.

Think he will pop into a local Wal Mart or grab a pepperoni roll at a local shop?

Wonder if his bus will come by my house, I live off a main highway.

Course, he won't see any Obama signs.
Lots of McCain -Palin ones though.


WVDOTTR

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

I haven't seen an ass-whoopin from word one to word final like this since Dick Cheney rag-dolled John Edwards.

John McCain is still picking Obama particles out of his boot treads.

I say Michael Chicklis plays Joe the Plumber in the McSequel to the movie W.

;)

psi bond said...

If McCain really was keen about distinguishing himself from Bush and going up against his party, he should have run against Bush as an independent in the general election eight years ago. And, if he lost, four years ago.

Obama has confessed who he really is: He was sent here from planet Krypton by his father Jor-El to save the planet Earth. You can’t make this stuff up, Z.

Now you are making post-conditions. I knew you would try to weasel out of it, Z. You said a conservative who had a CNN show. That’s Bill Bennett. No, you don’t get to do the throw of the dice over again, Z–––I mean TOM.

If you are shocked, really shocked that a presidential candidate isn’t gullible enough to believe that Fox is fair and balanced, then tell me when will Alan Colmes, like Sean Hannity, get his own Fox Sunday show.

Oh, Joe the Plumber’s boss, whose business Joe the (unlicenced) Plumber would like to buy, is not making 250 grand a year–––he is making about 100 grand. You don’t hear that by watching no Fox.

Unlike you, Z, McCain says he does not care about Ayers, even though his campaign’s robo calls are breathlessly telling voters about Ayers and the One Whom El Rushbo Mockingly Calls the Messiah. Don’t get that from no Fox, either.

Anonymous said...

I can't think of conservative on CNN, other than Glenn Beck. MSN is just as bad.

Z said...

Psi Bond...Bill Bennett..please show me that he has his own show. I'm open.

But, let me remind you, psi bond....CNN has NEVER EVER had a conservative YET. If they finally have him on, more power to them. Amazing. How many years has that channel been on? Even Larry King said he's 'independent' the other night as he RAILED against Larry Elder and another fine conservative. Oh, Letterman said that, too...to show how 'fair' they are!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many times do all of my commenters and I have to remind you that FOX is the ONLY (only) channel that actually DOES have both sides in EVERY (i mean EVERY) panel discussion?
You'd be amazed at how much more fascinating it is when people actually disagree and discuss their disagreements...just fascinated, I"m sure! You might learn something?

And yet you complain that Colmes doesn't have his own show? Who NEEDS it? We have ALL THE OTHER VENUES for his opinions. DO YOU GET IT YET?? What a terribly lame point. sad

When are you going to admit CNN hasn't EVER had a conservative journalist on their show ...all these many years? And they STILL get cover by you and the media for being a fair channel. THAT's what you can't make up, psi bond. Anyone with a rational, open mind would see that, you know that, you just can't admit it.

No, FOX came out as an avowedly Conservative Channel and the left SLAMS IT!!!!!! Thank GOD, there's ONE CHANNEL, huh? For HALF of America! I wonder why nobody throws it back at CNN that they are totally liberal? You'd think people like Blitzer would be ashamed, embarrassed?

It's just too silly. You know the truth, I understand your defensiveness. It's the ODDEST thing, I keep Googling "BILL BENNETT SHOW CNN" and NOTHING. ??

And, by the way, check out the fairness of MSNBC!!!!!

psi bond said...

And yet you complain that Colmes doesn't have his own show? Who NEEDS it? We have ALL THE OTHER VENUES for his opinions. DO YOU GET IT YET?? What a terribly lame point. sad

Consevatives don’t want Colmes to have a show of his own of Fox. In fact, I have heard conservatives complain about the fact that he appears, albeit in a subordinate position, on Hannity’s weekly show. They feel Hannity doesn’t need him. I clearly get that you have nothing but a bogus excuse for Colmes’ no-show–––that Colmes has non-Fox venues for his opinions, which is a terribly lame point. Colmes going to some other venue does not make Fox fair and balanced as advertised. If Fox were fair and balanced as conspicuously advertised, it would give Colmes a Sunday venue balancing Hannity’s Sunday venue. Fairly and balanced means fair and balanced, not superficially fair and balanced.. DO YOU GET IT YET??

No, FOX came out as an avowedly Conservative Channel and the left SLAMS IT!!!!!! Thank GOD, there's ONE CHANNEL, huh? For HALF of America! I wonder why nobody throws it back at CNN that they are totally liberal? You'd think people like Blitzer would be ashamed, embarrassed?

FoxNews does NOT avow it is a conservative channel, although its founding CEO is former Republican political strategist Roger Ailes. It loudly claims to be fair and balanced. Obama did not slam Fox in his brief reference to it. He only acknowledged, apparently much to your discomfort, what every rational person knows–––that Fox is no way, no how fair and balanced. Fox did not report that Joe the Plumber, who was first spotlighted by John McCain, is not a licensed plumber or that his employer makes much less than the $250,000 threshold of Obama’s tax plan, but when the MSM reported the facts, Fox then picked it up and said the Obama campaign, which attacked McCain’s exploitation of Joe the Plumber, is attacking Joe the Plumber himself, purportedly deploying TV crews to his home. Fox has to make this stuff up.

It's just too silly. You know the truth, I understand your defensiveness. It's the ODDEST thing, I keep Googling "BILL BENNETT SHOW CNN" and NOTHING. ??

You misunderstand, Z: it is not my defensiveness. It is my acceptance of your challenge.

And I accept your new challenge, too: I Googled "BILL BENNETT SHOW CNN" and got a link to a Wikipedia article which includes this line: "In 2008, Bennett became the host of a CNN weekly talk show, Beyond the Politics. It is unknown whether this will be a limited run or a permanent addition." In other words, a prominent conservative has or had a show of his own on CNN. One would think you'd be embarrassed by your faulty Internet research skills, but I'm sure you are ready with a silly bogus excuse and will berate me in upper-case for not getting it. How could I fail to notice The Truth, right?

And, by the way, check out the fairness of MSNBC!!!!!

Do you mean the channel that not only counters Hannity and O'Reilly with Olbermann and Maddow, but has given Scarborough–––Joe the former conservative congressman–––his own primetime morning show (beating out a lot of competition for it), following the longtime success of his primetime MSNBC evening show?

If any rational person needed conclusive proof of what a cynical sham is Fox's policy of putting on contradictory points of view, it was provided tonight by Laura Ingraham, substituting for Bill O'Reilly. She had Christopher Hitchens on to clarify why he supports Obama (at least that was how she promoted the upcoming segment and that was why I looked forward to it). Only he never got a fair opportunity to explain his views on the matter. Ingraham interrupted and talked over and dominated that segment with her own views, subduing Hitchens' normal outspokenness. Imagine how much more fascinating it would have been to hear Hitchens’ articulate opinions. Rightwing listeners might have learned something, Which is probably why Ingraham got in the way. Oddly, the only view that Hitchens was allowed to give an in-depth justification for was his support of the Iraq war. At the end of the segment, Ingraham invited him on her radio show. Hitchen conceded that that might be a better format, apparently meaning that the less restrictive format of radio possibly might allow him the time to explain why he thinks the Palin-McCain ticket is no good.

CNN also has given a show to Lou Dobbs, who has a strong anti-immigration point of view that appeals to rightwingers.

OK, Z, now you can begin shouting at me why Fox is fair because another channel, CNN, does not regularly give airtime to people who have shrill partisan points of view like yours.

When Fox provided live coverage of the event in which Gore endorsed Obama, it did so with a split screen on the Hannity and Colmes Show. When Gore began to give his endorsement (which turned out to be a notably eloquent speech), Karl Rove, prompted by Hannity, began to talk rapidly and animatedly on top of Gore’s speech for some minutes and continued until Fox went to a commercial before the end of the endorsement, thus effectively blocking it out in its entirety. Why do you suppose Fox did that? CNN covered Gore’s speech live without voiceover.

Z said...

Psi Bond,
you're getting silly.
compare the two channels.

Done. (by the way leftist groups are looking to get Bennett off for 'promoting conservative ideas', the same groups which were in the midst of getting Novak off Novak before he became so ill)

Sad. i have always felt a two-way conversation is edifying. Oh, well.

psi bond said...

What would we all do, Z, without you to tell us how we must think? No wonder rightwingers have historically liked regimes of an authoritarian nature: We the people cannot be trusted to think for ourselves.

Silly me, for thinking that the question of whether a news channel is fair and balanced, as it says it is, depends not at all on a comparison with some other channel. Especially not on a comparison using a bogus standard.

Silly me, for thinking Hitchens’ explanation of his support for Obama would have been more interesting to listeners than Laura Ingraham’s familiar opinions. What took place was not so much a two-way conversation as an Ingraham monologue that used Hitchens as a subdued prop. Do you think, Z, that that is what Fox listeners need to hear?

Anonymous said...

The republicans tanked this election.
They couldn't have fielded a worse candidate.
McCain barely won the third debate. The repdem debating machine would not allow real questions.
Immigration, overpopulation, minority on white crime, the rigged stock market system, national debt, loss of sovereignty, the invasion of our country by mexico, mexican military incursions into America etc.
We need a nationalist party in the USA. Other countries have them.The BNP is doing quite well in the UK. (Growing fast). Much to the chegrin of the elites.
Interesting how all nations that have a majority of White people face the same dilemas.
Unfortunately political correctness prevents us from really discussing race in America. Race is always discussed in nebulous terms that seem to blame White people for all the worlds woes. Does this make you uncomfortable?
Jeffersons dream will probably expire Nov. 4th.
Lost in aztlan