Wednesday, October 8, 2008

Obama and Odinga.....Make up your own mind



PLEASE PASS THIS AROUND...YouTube IT (Obama Odinga Kenya) AND YOU'LL FIND THE EMBED INFORMATION. THIS IS SOMETHING AMERICAN'S SHOULD KNOW.......YOU'D THINK THEY'D BE CURIOUS? I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT THAT ANYMORE.

IT WAS KENYAN IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS, (REMEMBER MY BLOG MENTION ABOUT THIS BELOW UNDER 'DOES THIS IRK YOU?'), WHO DEPORTED JEROME CORSI, THERE TO PROMOTE HIS BOOK SHOWING THE TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA AND THERE TO GET MORE INFORMATION OUT TO US. COULD THIS VIDEO BE THAT INFORMATION? CORSI HAD PROMISED A NEWS CONFERENCE...PERHAPS THIS WAS THE NEWS HE WANTED TO LET THE WORLD KNOW. I JUST WISH AMERICANS CARED ABOUT CHARACTER AND ALLIANCES, DON'T YOU? WE DO, WHY DON'T ALL? JUST HOW HARD A HOLD DOES SOCIALISM HAVE ON US ANYMORE?

Z

27 comments:

CJ said...

How does Obama manage to appear so benign, with all the evil in his past and going on behind the scenes?

Z said...

cj....hell if I know. Sorry, but I have no other, more polite, answer. It's unhinging...and such protection he has around him, purely because believe him and admire his delivery.

STYLE, all style, no substance, and so much bad background, assocations, secrets, etc. And they love him. Go figure.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone really care about character anymore? Well, half of us do. The rest, mostly a younger generation who are the product of absentee parents, socialist education, a materialistic culture, learned in the art and science of avoiding responsibility, never having been held accountable for behavior, in an environment where everything is okay, see nothing wrong with Obama’s past, or his associations. We don’t like it, but there it is. Now of course, these were the people who railed against the Patriot Act, believing the government has no business reading their email or listening in to their cell phone conversation (even if none of that ever happened) . . . so it will be interesting to see how they will react to the socialist state under Commissar Obama. I suspect they’ll be equally oblivious to those events, as well. Of course, Obama isn’t elected yet. Yet. We still have time to marshal our forces.

Mike said...

Absolutely frightening.

Here's a link to a blog that has the entire video (with background ono Odinga's atrocities): link

Maybe we should all start sending this video to the media outlets, asking why this is not being reported. I have a media contact list on my blog (right column).

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

There was no way Hillary Clinton was going to get the nomination of the DemoKKKratic Party when Obama could honestly prove he campaigned for a Kenyan responsible for the deaths of so many black people.

CJ said...

Obama supporters (i.e. thugs) made sure Hillary was defeated. This seems to be some evidence that just came out:

http://wewillnotbesilenced2008.com/video/index.htm

I'm sure we can count on more of the same tactics as the election gets underway.

Anonymous said...

Unbelievable!

Morgan

MathewK said...

Socialism is like death and taxes Z, it will be with us as long as we're around. As long as enough human beings are unwilling to grow up, are greedy, lazy and angling for the fruits of others work, it'll always be with us.

We will always have to fight it, always, that's just the way it is.

Always On Watch said...

Z,
I posted this video at my site and at Infidel Bloggers Alliance.

Anonymous said...

Although I'm not a religious person, and I know it's a cliche, "anti-Christ" keeps popping into my mind. Not because I think he is a biblical figure, but because Obama seems to inspire trust and confidence when in fact he does not merit it.

Brooke said...

I just saw this at AOW's.

Amazing!!! How does the MSM just keep covering up such a horrendous past?!?

Z said...

brooke, they're covering up SO MUCH,including lie-check on debates, etc., that you have to wonder.
I thought they were just socialists in the bag for a fellow walker, but I'm just now starting to think there's more to it than that..threats?
I've been wondering if THIS is why Jackson,Sharpton, et al, are nowhere to be seen when the first black candidate's running for office.
THAT is stone cold BIZARRE.

This would be like the first gay woman presidential candidate and is running and Ellen Degeneris doesn't care. WHAT?

Mustang: here's a comparison. Kids today (I'm generalizing, I know...) go out on a 'date' and end up having sex. I've thought this is promiscuous, doesn't help someone have a good sense of their own worth, can hurt future involvements, their health etc.....sex, no love, sad..(Ya, and I was young and didn't always feel like this, TRUST me!!) etc.

I'm beginning to see that this is their NORMAL. They don't KNOW BETTER. THIS is their life, this is what they've been led to believe is WHAT YOU DO.

Same as today's voter. Socialism IS THE NORM. You heard Obama say 'healthcare is a RIGHT'. What is a RIGHT in this country?? Where does it SAY that? You're right..these are people against the Patriot Act and wiretapping and now this guy's going to tell them what they'll be DOING?

m.a....that's my hope..GET THIS OUT THERE. TELL THE MEDIA WE KNOW and we're not going to take it anymore! (hey, hasn't that been SAID?!!LOL)

MK...who knew it would happen HERE and the sheeple'd be so ecstatic?

Hermit, excellent point.

beamish.....imagine? How did Hillary have a chance?
Hey, maybe THIS is why Jackson/Sharpton aren't all over this election. Maybe THEY 'get it' about Obama?

naaa

Anonymous said...

1. Barack Obama spent 20 years sitting in church while his preacher and others bad-mouthed the United States of America. Navy pilot John McCain spent five years being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton, and refused a chance to walk out ahead of fellow POWs with more seniority.

2. Obama wants to cut and run from Iraq regardless of conditions on the ground or future consequences. McCain took on the president and secretary of defense in demanding more troops for Iraq, a policy that is inarguably winning the war. He also has two sons who fought in Iraq.

3. McCain supports nuclear power. Obama backs wind energy.




4. Obama wants restrictive gun control because only economically depressed middle-Americans “cling to God and guns.” McCain unwaveringly supports the Second Amendment.

5. McCain has deviated from his party’’s conservative base on several occasions (McCain-Feingold Bill, Gang of 14, McCain-Kennedy Bill, opposition to torture). Obama has voted the left-wing line every single time, and been designated the most liberal Senator in Congress.

6. Obama is willing to meet with hostile state leaders like Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez without preconditions. McCain will set conditions first, talk later —— maybe.

7. Obama is married to a bitter, angry lawyer who became “proud” of her country for the first time this year. McCain’’s wife is a beer heiress who founded an organization to provide MASH-style units to disaster-torn world regions. Did I mention that she’’s a beer heiress?

8. Obama supports higher taxes for a government-run nanny state that will coddle all Americans like babies. McCain trusts people to spend their less-taxed money however they wish.

9. The name John McCain sounds like “John McClain,” the action hero played by Bruce Willis in the manly Die Hard series. ““Barack Obama”” sounds like the kind of elitist villain John McClain has to outwit and defeat.
10. McCain is endorsed by Clint Eastwood, Sylvester Stallone, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Obama gets support from Leonardo DiCaprio, Matt Damon, Oprah Winfrey, Tom Hanks, and every weenie in Hollywood. Plus, Susan Sarandon has vowed to leave the country if McCain gets elected. Case closed.

Chuck said...

Do remember that people on the left did not see the genocide in Iraq and have attacked Bush for deposing a brutal dictator there. I would like to see Obama elected to the Presidency, of Kenya.

Think about, maybe there's something here to look at. They love him, we don't. He could set up his socialist state there and it would probabaly actually be an upgrade for them. More importantly, it's the motherland for him, the place of his birth.

I would e-mail him and suggest it but the last time I sent an e-mail to the Obama campaign, they kept sending me "messages of Hope". I had to fight through the nausea to get the idiots to stop harrasing me. I can't go there again.

Z said...

Chuck, great comment!

I am ALL FOR IT "OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT OF KENYA" great!

Your comment about nausea getting HOPE MESSAGES cracked me up.

As a Californian, I have the hideous Barbara Boxer for a senator. Every time I write and tell her how much something she did embarrassed and bugged me, I get a smarmy "THANK YOU FOR CONTACTING ME, YOUR OPINION IS IMPORTANT TO ME.." Yadda yadda....stomach turns over, right..?

I write back "don't EVER write to me again. Nothing you could write to me would please me unless it was announcing your resignation!"

Well, not QUITE that nasty, but close!!

Rita Loca said...

Z, I have to work this into a post.

Ducky's here said...

Deep thoughts:

There's not enough booze in the world to get me through a McCain/Palin administration.

Z said...

Ducky, if you only new.
We Conservatives will not only have to sit through the nauseating Ludirus and Madonna singing at what used to be dignified Inaugural Balls, and we'll not only have to stay drunk when we consider who's "leading" this country (a man with the shadiest stuff ANY president's ever exhibited, right?!)

BUT...WE will have to wake up with a hangover of SOCIALISM in AMERICA.

YOU think there's not enough booze? OH, brother.

Ducky's here said...

To "conservative"

2. Obama wants to cut and run from Iraq regardless of conditions on the ground or future consequences. McCain took on the president and secretary of defense in demanding more troops for Iraq, a policy that is unarguably winning the war. He also has two sons who fought in Iraq.

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Unarguably winning the war? Let's take a look.

1. We catch a tremendous break. The Sunni/al-Qaeda alliance does not hold. This takes place long before the surge and despite any American action. Al-Qaeda was simply to big a bunch of nutlogs for the secular Iraqi Sunnis.

2. We see an opportunity and start paying off Sunni militias to keep order and finish off the ethnic cleansing of Iraq (can we really feel good about being part of that?)

3. We send in additional troops for mop up.

That's the "surge". We can thank Petraeus for seeing the opportunity to ally with the Sunnis against al-Qaeda.

Now let's look at the McCain strategy. He wanted more troops in their from the start. That would have just cost us more lives and money and if the occupation had been sufficiently oppressive it may have caused the Sunni/al-Qaeda alliance to actually gel which would have put us up the junction completely.
McCain had no tactical concept of this fiasco and he would have simply made things worse. Republican civilian management of this war was laughable.

Ducky's here said...

... also "conservative" remember that McCain's plan for Afghanistan is to duplicate "the surge".

Different tribal structure

Different ruling structure

Different terrain

Different economy

Different neighbors (including one with nuclear arms)

.... that's a start. Now do you think he has any better tactical grasp there or is he also so out of touch that he thinks it's just a matter of troop strength?

Z said...

Ducky, you're killing me!! GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT THEN look like a fool, as Beamish would admonish you!!!!!!

You don't really think you can get away with that, do you?

ALL of the same actions do not a SURGE make. I'm thinking MAYBE McCain and Patreus MIGHT fine tune to fit the georgraphy, the politics, the situation on the ground?

If we'd gone in with MUCH more boots on the ground, MAYBE we would have won 3 years ago.

If the NYTimes and people like you didn't tell the world America's not behind this effort, MAYBE we'd have won, too, YA THINK??????

2000 kids re-upped this July 4 alone....kids THERE seeing the success you and Moveon and Obama still won't acknowledge. It's sickening and it's dangerous for Iraq AND US not admit it, not to look like a concerted effort. The leftist naivite sucks the air out of ANY situation. You notice that?

EVERYONE says the surge worked but you don't think so. bravo.

As for "just troop strength?" Ya, that's a HUGE important thing. As for talks, you think they're NOT? you HONESTLY think Iraq and Afghanistan aren't in constant contact with us? Funny, because the Left's the one saying we work secret deals with Iraq's gov't...WHEN? I thought we never TALK TO THEM??

What's the use...my only solace is you're not running for office.

But, you're staying fairly civil, you're getting almost humorous so I'll keep you around for comic relief!!

Z said...

OH, BY THE WAY, Ducky?

Got a comment about your hero and his cousin? Just curious.

Freedomnow said...

Let’s be realistic. Different tribes or different cultures - does not necessarily mean that similar tactics will not succeed.

Most Americans haven’t the slightest idea about what goes on in the field; other than the talking points of the Democratic Party, the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

If you know anything about the tactics of the Surge, you would know that they are based on the tactics of counter insurgency warfare compiled from the last 40+ years.

General Petraeus co-wrote the latest COIN manual for the Army/Marines in 2006. This manual is meant for general use in COIN tactics, not just in Iraq. They are applicable to almost any warzone facing an insurgency.

http://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-24fd.pdf

The best summary of these tactics, which were successfully used in Iraq, states:

“American forces committed to COIN are there to assist a host government. The long-term goal is to leave a host that is capable of standing on its own. In the end, the host nation has to win its own war.”

We can all agree on this point.

The application of these tactics is unconventional (as it should be):

“Ultimate success in COIN is gained by protecting the populace, not the COIN force. If military forces stay locked up in compounds, they lose touch with the people, appear to be running scared, and cede the initiative to the insurgents. Patrols must be conducted, risk must be shared, and contact maintained. This ensures access to the intelligence needed to drive operations and reinforces the connections with the people that establish real legitimacy.”

Successful practices were listed as:

• Emphasize intelligence.
• Focus on the population, their needs, and security.
• Establish and expand secure areas.
• Isolate insurgents from the population (population control).
• Appoint a single authority, usually a dynamic, charismatic leader.
• Conduct effective, pervasive psychological operations.
• Provide amnesty and rehabilitation for insurgents.
• Place police in the lead with military support.
• Expand and diversify the police force.
• Train military forces to conduct counterinsurgency operations.
• Embed special operations forces and advisors with indigenous forces.
• Deny the insurgents sanctuary.


These tactics were successfully used in the Surge and they can also be applied to Afghanistan with meaningful results.

General Petraeus was called a traitor for implementing the Surge and defending its success. I hope that we don’t have to see the same mistake now that he is in charge of Iraq and Afghanistan.

Anonymous said...

Apparently, Obama is not the only "stooge" in the Democratic Party ... some are frequent visitors here.

Ducky's here said...

Do you have any comment, mustang, on why my analysis is incorrect?

I'm sure there are some holes but I'm also sure of two points.

1. We can't define "winning".

2. McCain had no idea about the internal Iraqi society and clings to the obsolete notion that troop strength is the only tactical variable.

What has occurred in Iraq to enhance our security and justify the cost?

(((Thought Criminal))) said...

Z,

beamish.....imagine? How did Hillary have a chance?
Hey, maybe THIS is why Jackson/Sharpton aren't all over this election. Maybe THEY 'get it' about Obama?


Perhaps Obama told Jackson and Sharpton that he'd send the Marines to re-re-reinstall Aristide in Haiti, and give him enough tires and gasoline to re-re-restore "democracy."

Freedomnow said...

Ducky,

You cant define winning because:

1. Victory runs counter to your political agenda.

2. You dont understand counterinsurgency warfare.

Educate yourself and you will understand.