Saturday, July 16, 2011

Color or Integrity? Will both ever win?

How can our country, and race relations, ever recover when we have Sheila Jackson Lee even hinting at things like THIS?   Really, Representative Lee?  You really think things are going badly because Mr. Obama's black?   Was the absolutely horrid treatment of Bush by the Democrats because he was white?   Below is the whole article, but you might want to click my link above to read the comments which pretty much echo my astonishment at this idiotic surmisal, only ruder:

Jackson Lee: Congress complicating debt ceiling because Obama is black

By Josiah Ryan - 07/15/11 03:02 PM ET
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas) on Friday strongly suggested that members of Congress are making it difficult for President Obama to raise the debt ceiling because of his race.
"I do not understand what I think is the maligning and maliciousness [toward] this president,” said Jackson Lee, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus. “Why is he different? And in my community, that is the question that we raise. In the minority community that is question that is being raised. Why is this president being treated so disrespectfully? Why has the debt limit been raised 60 times? Why did the leader of the Senate continually talk about his job is to bring the president down to make sure he is unelected?”

Earlier in her speech, Jackson Lee said Obama has been targeted unlike any other president."I am particularly sensitive to the fact that only this president — only this one, only this one — has received the kind of attacks and disagreement and inability to work, only this one," said Jackson Lee from the House floor.
"Read between the lines," she continued. "What is different about this president that should put him in a position that he should not receive the same kind of respectful treatment of when it is necessary to raise the debt limit in order to pay our bills, something required by both statute and the 14th amendment?"
Jackson Lee concluded by saying that she hoped someone would step up and say that what appears obvious to her is not in fact true.
"I hope someone will say that what it appears to be is not in fact accurate," said Lee. "But historically it seems to be nothing more."

Z:  With people like this in charge, we shall never overcome.   You know, it's impossible for me to understand why some on the left just don't understand that, sometimes, the choices in a compromise seem so unhealthy to one side that they will not capitulate just to please people like Ms Lee or the President.   So, because she doesn't like one group's integrity, it's easier to blame it on color than work at her understanding their viewpoints?   She has certainly displayed little integrity here.

55 comments:

-FJ said...

On "racism" as a explanation of the president's difficulties...

Nietzsche, "Twilight of the Idols" (5)

The causal instinct is thus conditional upon, and excited by, the feeling of fear. The "why?" shall, if at all possible, not give the cause for its own sake so much as for a particular kind of cause--a cause that is comforting, liberating, and relieving. That it is something already familiar, experienced, and inscribed in the memory, which is posited as a cause, that is the first consequence of this need. That which is new and strange and has not been experienced before, is excluded as a cause. Thus one searches not only for some kind of explanation to serve as a cause, but for a particularly selected and preferred kind of explanation--that which has most quickly and most frequently abolished the feeling of the strange, new, and hitherto unexperienced: the most habitual explanations. Consequence: one kind of positing of causes predominates more and more, is concentrated into a system and finally emerges as dominant, that is, as simply precluding other causes and explanations. The banker immediately thinks of "business," the Christian of "sin," and the girl of her love.

Or in this case, a girl of her bogeyman."

beamish said...

Wow! I never thought of that. Now that she mentions it, I can't think of any country that did well with a black leader, even if he had black citizens and subjects to work with.

Wow, Sheila Jackson Lee is on to something.

Always On Watch said...

Damn. This race card idiocy is so overdone.

Sadly, I'm sure that a certain percentage of Americans do believe what this woman is saying. Sheesh.

sue said...

Z - I just can't give much credibility to Rep. Jackson on this one.

Although I do believe that racism continues to exist, and for some there is a stigma about President Obama being black.

But the debt ceiling? I don't think so.

Z said...

Fj, what an excellent quote to bring into this situation, thanks for that.
Slightly off topic,
Nietzsche has become more interesting to me as I've read recently what he has to say about God.
I love that he said "we have invented happiness"...seeing that nobody seems to ever be truly happy without faith and that we fill our happiness voids with "things" we invent and never ever ever seem truly happy, it's such a great apologetic, in spite of what he meant to do!
Anyway, I'm getting sort of getting to know Nietzsche better and appreciating it.
thanks..

Yes, Lee's bogeyman is the comfort of feeling Whites are against her...how sad and really rather disgusting.

Beamish...you know you're right!
I saw something about Mandela this morning quickly on TV, such hero worship, and thought "And how S Africa's gone to HELL since Mandela"...yes, they're FREE and the Black families who begged to stay in the protection of White farmers whose lands they'd lived on for lifetimes are now thrown into a mess.....it's unsafe to walk the streets in Johannesburg and Capetown; it's a nightmare, thanks to Mandela. If only people realized this.

I think I've told you before that a Nigerian caregiver for neighbors upstairs and I sat up late talking one night; she said she wished the whites had never left her country because things are so bad now. Mr. Z had lived in Nigeria on and off and told me horror stories of how the Blacks there simply weren't ready to take over yet (as is the case in S Africa, freedom or no freedom/ they're not stupid, they're not ill meaning...they just weren't ready and the blacks in charge were ill meaning ...
in Paris, around the corner from our home, were some embassies, including from Ivory Coast and Nigeria; their inhabitants had silk suits, ate in the finest restaurants, had chauffeurs and THE most expensive real estate for their Embassy homes.....while the people are starving.
No, no country has done well EXCEPT, I hope you heard about SUdan and how the president there has given total credit to Bush and Christianity for helping him? No, the media didn't cover this last week.

Z said...

AOW, of course many Americans believe her; how does this solve race relations she's supposedly so interested in..? Unless she truly is NOT interested.
Man, look at all the wonderful Black Republican candidates lately...! Some racism, huh?
And, as leftwingers disdain us for our politics and think we're crazy and unthinking, the black Dems condemn black Republicans for the same reasons......
I guess it's just NOT ALLOWED anymore to have an unliberal viewpoint; how American, huh? (sarcasm here)

Z said...

Hi, Sue,
It's funny about Obama, the other day, I thought "wouldn't it be great to have a black president?" when Herman Cain was on TV (tho I'm not sold on him)...then I laughed to myself and thought "Man, we have a black president NOW, Z!" I forget!
If that's racism, maybe you're right.

I have never seen racism about Obama, but perhaps it's in the eye of the beholder. There are so many Black Republican candidates and politicians now, that it seems silly to think anybody (particularly the Republicans) would be against Obama for his color, don't you think? I don't see the stigma. Matter of fact, I had SUCH hopes racism would improve after his election but I see him hurting those chances more than helping, which surprises me. He didn't help a bit, for example, when the Harvard beer thing happened...

I remember Whoopi Goldberg saying, the day after his election, "I think we blacks now feel we can unpack our luggage now".......I felt she was wrong, that Blacks have had every opportunity for YEARS (of all success stories, she should know that!?), but I did very seriously consider what she said and thought that, in a way, I could very much understand that feeling....I was thrilled, frankly, if that's how American blacks were going to feel! I actually cried that night Obama got the DNC nod and I saw young blacks with tears running down their faces; I was so sad the best the Dems had was this inexperienced man who'd lied and still got elected, but I DID feel joyful for Black youth. (and got quite a lot of heat for having said I cried for those reasons here at my blog, by the way)

But, rather like Pelosi, who got to be first woman Speaker and held her arms up Popeye style like showing her muscles and posing in other masculine ways to show a woman was now in charge, which saddened and shocked me because I feel women should just be PEOPLE and don't have to laud it over everyone when they are treated with equality (I was crushed, tell you the truth), the Obamas seem to be doing the same thing; bringing attention to their color and allowing statements like Lee's and others instead of disclaiming them......instead of just BEING AN AMERICAN.
I suppose Obama was smart in the extremely obvious exclusion of Jesse Jackson in his presidency (at least ostensibly, or visibly) because Jackson is such a pimp, but let's face it, Obama doesn't seem to want to forget his color and just be a president for ALL of us.
Even on Easter, he finally did attend a church and the only one he felt he should go to was a Free Black Church from slavery days!? that's just one example and it so doesn't help, does it.

it's very sad. I hope it changes.......I think this country is far less racist than black pimp leaders like Rangel and Sharpton and those Obama admires think.

Joe Conservative said...

Yes, Lee's bogeyman is the comfort of feeling Whites are against her...how sad and really rather disgusting.

How else could she explain the gaps (economic, educational, social, etc) between the races? For it's a lot easier to believe that "Whitey is holding you down" than "I've got a LOT of work catching up to do!"

Z said...

Joe, if Blacks weren't sold that crap bill of goods that Whites hate them and don't want them to succeed, they'd have been FAR more further along than they are..you're right.
I just finally blogrolled you; good to have you around and I like your blog very much.

badwolf79 said...

Z & friends, as a Texan I am truly embarassed by the antics of Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas). I fear she must be as loony as some of the things I've just been reading about her. Describes Venezuela as a 'friendly nation'? Thinks we should sell them F-16's? Thinks illegals should be handled as civil rights cases? Methinks the lady is nuts.

I see she grew up in Queens, so as I suspected, she isn't really a Texan. Still, to all the fair minded readers of Z's excellent blog, I apologize for my state's association with such a dunce.
~ Will

Z said...

Dear Will,
I live in California.
You never have to apologize for ANYTHING like Rep Lee :-)
Although she IS a nut, that is FOR SURE!
thanks for the lovely compliment...I'm always glad when you find time to stop by.

Joe Conservative said...

Well thank you, Ms. Z. I need to reciprocate. ;)

Pris said...

What nonsense. I think Hillary or McCain would be President today if Obama wasn't black.

What makes him tick, is his socialist agenda and his seeming desire to be a dictator, rather than a President.

He doesn't respect the Constitution, doesn't respect the Supreme Court or it's rulings, and sees the American people as fodder for his leftist agenda.

What's to like, and what does his race have to do with it? Nothing, except the race card, which is played whenever it suits the left's political game.

Z said...

You're welcome, Joe, and thank you.
So, you blog roll me and I do a HOT DOG POST! (I hope that doesn't demean your blog roll :-)!!

Pris, AMEN to all you wrote...well put

Jan said...

Actually the 'race card' is probably the reason we have so many inept people in office, state-wise, and otherwise, including Representative Lee.

If she can't see how Bush was domonized, and put down by everything from the way he talked, to...well, you name it...then she certainly isn't intelligent enough to be holding any kind of public office.

Much less, voicing her foolish opinion about anything, at all.

Jan said...

That would be *demonized* but if they COULD "domonize" him, they'd do that too! :)

Mark said...

Doesn't look like it will happen now, but one wonders what the race-baiters would do if Herman Cain were the Republican nominee.

Forced to choose between a black man that mouths platitudes or a black man with real common sense solutions to the problems created by the former.

Mark said...

I don't dislike Obama because he's black. I dislike him because he's red.

MK said...

We told you America, they'll always call you racist, no matter how many blacks you vote for, leftist scum will always see you as racist and they'll always use the race card to blackmail you into voting for obama.

Mind you, they don't have any other card to play. It's been a while since he has been in charge and yet you're further down the economic and social toilet than when he started. The moron needs every dirty card his lapdogs can scrounge up.

Impertinent said...

"they're not stupid, they're not ill meaning...they just weren't ready and the blacks in charge were ill meaning ..."

Hmmmm....kind of like the school board in Atlanta?

Or the kids they "teach".

Impertinent said...

At times I just have to sit back and compare the civil rights act and it's 50 years of failure against where the state of Israel is after the same amount of years.

So after 50 years from 1948 when Israel achieved it's state and independence brings us to 1998.

How accomplished, successful and vibrant was Israel then? Probably much the same as it now with a few minor setbacks.

Now...let's compare that to the achievements and progress of the civil rights act in a country that happens to be the most gifted and generous on earth.

Only gerrymandering and the false promises of AA have made it seem better. While our expectations rose....it became more of a burden than a success. Look at the schools and their graduation rates. Compare them to Israel.

Look at our major cities that have fallen into crime, desperation, corruption and wastelands, with their chosen and elected "leadership".

Then look at the Israeli's ambitious projects to turn the desert green and to build from the ground up...productive citizens and cities.

Now look to Africa....the "cultural" heartland / motherland for America's blacks over the past 50 years.

Truly a basket case since the "colonials" pulled out and left them to their own devices. Once a continent ( not a sliver of desert like Israel ) so rich in materials and resources it was capable of feeding the entire continent if not the world.

Look at it now.

What...is the reason I wonder?

Why have the problems gotten so much worse and Israel so much better during the same period of growth and opportunity?

Z said...

Imp, you tell US what you think....you ask a very good question and provide a lot of truth there.

I'm posting on the Atlanta school mess this afternoon; I usually don't like to on Sundays, but this one got my blood boiling too badly to ignore it...maybe I'll do it Monday, I'm not sure. But, I'm covering it.

beamish said...

I hate Obama because he's Irish.

Impertinent said...

Ms. Z...I'll wait for some others to chime in. Unfortunately the answers are not very PC.

Impertinent said...

"I hate Obama because he's Irish."

Yeah...I miss 1845 as much as I do 1861.

/sarc off

Z said...

Imp...people won't come down here too much anymore but I hope they'll chime in. Most of the time, visitors won't scroll down too far.

I have 2 SUCH disturbing stories to post ... the Atlanta story and one that's unbelievable........maybe I'll post that for Monday morning.

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