Monday, June 11, 2012

A Country Can't Survive....

Can you imagine the French prohibiting their children from singing Le Marsailles? (never happen).  I don't believe there is another country in this world which disallows children to sing patriotic songs about the country they live in.   And we wonder why so many illegals treat us like dirt?  WE treat ourselves like undeserving dirt.   Check this out: 

NY Principal Pulls Patriotic Song, Wants to Avoid Offending Other Cultures

Sunday, 10 Jun 2012 10:46 AM
By Paul Scicchitano


Admonishing teachers that she did not want to “offend other cultures,” Coney Island principal Greta Hawkins reportedly is refusing to allow students to sing "God Bless the USA" at a school moving-up ceremony later this month.
The New York Post reported on Sunday that Hawkins had no problem, however, with Justin Bieber's "Baby" for her school’s June 20 commencement.              
But after five classes spent months learning the song, Hawkins reportedly ordered a CD playing the Lee Greenwood hit to be shut off, the Post reported.

“A lot of people fought to move to America to live freely, so that song should be sung with a whole lot of pride,” Luz Lozada, whose son, Daniel, is in kindergarten, told the Post.
The Department of Education reportedly supports the principal’s decision, with spokeswoman Jessica Scaperotti saying that Hawkins found the lyrics “too grown up” for children.
“The lyrics are not age-appropriate,” she said of the song, which gained popularity after the 9/11 attacks and the Iraq invasion.
How do you build an America again based on immigrants who came here so excitedly to contribute, learn the language and give their children opportunity when WE don't allow our kids (or theirs) to sing about our country because "other cultures" won't like it.  Who GIVES A DAMN ABOUT OTHER CULTURES?  What message did this send to those kids who spent months learning the song?    Other cultures are wonderful at HOME, or at particular celebrations.  Immigrants used to want to be part of the AMERICAN CULTURE.  Now we don't let them?
I'm ARMENIAN, we were raised loving this country.  My grandparents learned English in short order and were thrilled to do so and saw to it that their children got great educations and fully participated in America.
That included singing GOD BLESS AMERICA, trust me.

I'm sorry to sound a bit rough on this, but THIS IS A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.   

Do you agree?

z



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48 comments:

christian soldier said...

This kind of 'crap' has been subtly going on a loooooong time in our schools-
Now it is overt- instead of covert--
Are we freedom & Constitution lovers going to fight back and sue or are we going to continually 'roll over'!? !

Carol-CS

Always On Watch said...

Another, similar incident that occurred here locally and received zero publicity....

About 6 years ago, a WW2 veteran whom I personally know (For that reason, I know all these details) offered to lead the Pledge of Allegiance at his grandchildren's elementary school; the class was one of 5th graders. The teacher said, "You can't do that! Not all of our students say the Pledge of Allegiance, and we don't want to offend them."

Apparently, the Pledge of Allegiance is NEVER said by that class!

Now, years ago when I taught in a Christian school, we had several Muslim students from Pakistan. They may not have said the Pledge, but they DID stand up for it and face the flag. There was no issue whatsoever about our daily reciting the Pledge in every classroom in the school.

Students were also required to learn and sing our National Anthem and "America the Beautiful." Those same Pakistani students learned and sang both songs. Again, no issue.

The Debonair Dudes World said...

This is all part and parcel of the NEW America that Obama is creating!

Obama already told us that he wants to "Reshape" America.
And that he wants to make America into a better place! Hold everything!
Lord have mercy, if he's going to "RE-shape America" more that he already has then I think we are in for a lot more trouble than we already thought.
way back in 1990 Obama wrote about how he really hopes to be a part of “Transformation of this Country.” So he had plans way back in 1990 on becoming President and ruining this country! Sound familiar?

Yes, he told us back then in 1990 that he wanted to “Re-shape American and he again told us that last week, ironic isn’t i? What more does he have to tell us to wake up these Lame-Brain Progressive Idiots? Are we a bunch of Masochists? Do we need an app for that? He told us that he wanted to Redistribute the Wealth, who else but a Socialist would say something like that? Can we call him a socialist now? Can we call him Comrade Obama now? And remember when the First Wookie told us that she had been “ashamed of America” before! I Wonder if she Proud of America now?

Joe said...

You are absolutely right. Other cultures are for their homes.

In this home one needs to become aculturated (a sociological term we don't hear much any more)or go back to his/her own home.

Silverfiddle said...

I agree completely, and you are not being too harsh.

The saddest part of this is that parents didn't show up and tell that constipated principal to take the stick out of her butt and let the kids sing that song!

Bitter lefties make fun of it, but God Bless the USA is an awesome song, and it has nothing to do with putting down other cultures.

We are a musical family. My youngest daughter and I love singing that song together as I accompany us on the guitar.

People who hate the song can stick their multi-culti bs where the sun don't shine.

Ducky's here said...

If I had a child in that kindergarten and found out the teacher thought young children learn by spending months learning that Lee greenwood tripe, something they are not old enough to understand, I'd pull them out of class.

Luckily my grand niece is in a Montessori.

sue hanes said...

Z - God Bless the USA is a bit more 'grown up' than America or
God Bless America.

But I don't think it's something that needs making a big deal of - just better to let it go.

There are other things going on in our Country that need to be called attention to.

Brooke said...

Unreal! (It seems like I'm saying that more and more!)

Whichever students are 'offended' should step out or shaddup and wait it out... They're in OUR country, not the other way around!

Elmers Brother said...

As it was the principal who is a Jehovah's Witness, more than likely it was she who was offended.

Z said...

Christian Soldier...Yes, we ARE going to continually 'roll over'...that's why we're failing, isn't it.

AOW...it's not the foreigners who are offended, it's liberal AMericans who THINK kids or their parents will be offended.
Imagine parents COMING HERE (many receiving aid in every way one can get it) and being upset that their child celebrates this country? :-)
The preschool where I teach a class every week has a Hispanic young teacher whose little sister came with her one day, about 12 years old...When I had my class say the Pledge, she stood right with them and said it with them. I asked if she'd learned it at school and she had, in downtown L.A. I was very glad about that. Really surprised.

Dude...The NEW America might just want to choose a name other than AMERICA because it'll be THAT different.

Joe..Americans today must truly dislike this country to do things like this. Otherwise, they'd stand up and say "This is America and we will honor our country"

SF...Amen to ALL of that. Thanks for raising your daughter loving this country. Weird I'd even have to say that, isn't it.

Ducky, I'm so sorry your schools don't gently and appropriately explain the lyrics like I did with my 4 and 5 year olds....Also, the song itself, the chorus, etc., are really fun for young kids to sing.

Montessori; well, maybe she'll grow up and realize esteem isn't as important as learning and maybe she'll get good discipline at home? I hope so.

Sue, unless we finally start to address this kind of idiotic multiculturalism, the other problems in our country won't matter.
Immigrants who came legally all these years loved this country and celebrated it. The principal specifically said this was about OFFENDING...not about difficult lyrics.

Brooke, EXACTLY. Why don't liberals honor that?

Elbro, right. And Americans shouldn't care how much she was offended.

Lisa said...

Ducky would love to see school kids learn this song

Z said...

Lisa, I think a lot of people would be. Remember they have some schools having kids fast like they do for Ramadan and reading from the Koran for a week so they can understand islam.
Imagine their reading the BIble every day for a week? They'd be arrested.

Elmers Brother said...

Duhkkkys more of a heavy metal guy, just ask Beamish

Lisa said...

Z I wonder if they also teach the place women and gays take in Islam as well.

Jan said...

Here we go, again, with the hypocrisy.

After all the videos we've all seen with the kindergartners, and other grades, all the way up to high school, and beyond, praising Obama to High Heaven!

I suppose that's okay, since they don't mention God, or loving this country...only Obama, and look like something you'd see in countries run by dictators!

And it's not just a little thing, unworthy of complaint, and should be 'let go' because there are more important things to think about.

More and more, we are expected to accept things, to just let them go, so that no one is offended..which is part of the reason we're where we are, today.

Well, I'm offended when I see so much disrespect for not only country, but for the people who still respect our country, and what it used to stand for!

Ducky, your comment made you sound just like an elitist snob.

Keep touching on these little unimportant things, Z. :)

BTW..."In September, a public elementary school in Harlem will require students to learn Arabic."
http://personalliberty.com/2012/05/28/new-york-school-requires-students-to-learn-arabic/

Z said...

Lisa, you hit it out of the ballpark again. Of course they don't.
That is SUCH a good and IMPORTANT POINT.

Jan...No worries. I'll keep bringing these things out. THanks for the support.
So, Arabic, huh? And in Harlem; that'll make it easier to convert to islam, I guess?
Here in Venice, CA, the PUBLIC schools have CHINESE IMMERSION in a few of the neighborhoods...not just a Chinese class, but learning in CHinese. I don't think it's mandatory, but CHINESE?
Our kids don't even read and write ENGLISH WELL anymore!

Z said...

I'm listening to FOX in the next room...a lib and a con talking about leaks and the corner Issa's being painted into because Holder's not coming up with 90% of the paperwork the Senate's been requesting for weeks and weeks.

The liberal is using the same technique my libs here use "how's this really important? We have to get people jobs and healthcare...how important is this?"

How is it important that our AG doesn't present what's requested of him?
How is it important that a NYTimes writer SAID that the information he got came from the White House?

ETc ETC ETC.....I think it's important. Do you?

conservativesonfire said...

This what happens as the Marxist started taking over our education system 100 years ago. They are hell bent on destroying our culture and, sadly, they have been quite successful.

Silverfiddle said...

@ Jan: fter all the videos we've all seen with the kindergartners, and other grades, all the way up to high school, and beyond, praising Obama to High Heaven!

I suppose that's okay, since they don't mention God...


Actually, they do, since Obama is their god.

Sam Huntington said...

Learning to love America is bad, but learning to love Barack Obama is good.

Leftist logic, I guess.

Liberalmann said...

Lol, more crap for wingnuts to have an aneurism over.

Lisa said...

My husband saw a bumper sticker yesterday that said "Darwin Loves You"

Good grief!

Law and Order Teacher said...

Z,
It sure as hell is a sad day when celebrating our common culture is a bad thing. The big problem with the left is that they want to deny that we have a common culture.

Balkinization of our country allows them to reap the whirlwind of disaffected minorities and special interest groups to further their agenda. Shameful.

Pris said...

Ummm, Ducky,
So they're too young to understand the song, but not too young to learn about sex? Get a grip, Ducky!

When I was two years old I sang "It's a Grand Old Flag". I knew what the flag was, even then.

I learned all the military songs during my formative years. That was during WWII, and my uncle was gone to fight in the war. I knew that too.

This teacher looked for some kind of excuse to prevent these children from learning patriotism. Do you think any of us believes such a lame excuse?

Other cultures my foot!! If people want to live here, then they are obliged to respect America. If they don't, they can damn well leave, no one is stopping them!

Jan said...

"Actually, they do, since Obama is their god."

Silverfiddle:

Silly me...how could I have forgotten this?

"In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD. He's going to bring all different sides together."
- Newsweek editor Evan Thomas

And Liberalmann, if you believe the kind of garbage stated in the above quote, maybe you should be the one concerned about the aneurysm.

Z, you said that you were sorry for sounding a bit rough on this, but, "rough" is what it would be if all of us here, said ALL of what we really feel about it!

Liberalmann said...

I didn't say that I did now did I? But if you really have to pounce on stories like this to keep your feigned outrage alive, be my guest. Have a stroke over minutia.

Z said...

Pris "So they're too young to understand the song, but not too young to learn about sex? Get a grip, Ducky!"

BRAVO. VERY good 'get'.

Jan, if anything, Obama's done the exact opposite of bringing sides together...Divide TO Conquer has been his mantra.

there's liberalmann not understanding how important this is. As if this is a 'one off' situation.

Z said...

Liberalmann, we understand, trust me...if someone doesn't feel much like celebrating America, or if someone doesn't want our children to thrive, then this principal's YOUR GAL. We get that.

Only a liberal can think it's good to have children afraid to celebrate their country, the country millions are living off of$$$....amazing.

Impertinent said...

"How is it important that a NYTimes writer SAID that the information he got came from the White House?"


I think water boarding of Valerie Jarret, Axelrod, Holder & Obummer is in order. Then Obummer can order a drone strike on the NYT. Oh..and any NYT "reporter" is long over do for the treatment.

Impertinent said...

I can't help but notice that Obummer keeps saying.."MY White House"...Doesn't the blowhard in chief know it's OUR WHITE HOUSE?

Impertinent said...
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Impertinent said...

Approved "replacement song for these children:

"Justin Bieber’s flirty song about teen romance, “Baby,” was deemed a fine selection for the show.
Hawkins had no problem with 5-year-olds singing lines such as, “Are we an item? Girl, quit playing.”


The principal, a Jehovah’s Witness, does not recite the pledge because her religion forbids followers to salute any nation’s flag...(nice)

The DOE reprimanded her in 2010 after teachers complained she called the school “racist” and declared: “I’m black. Your previous principal was white and Jewish. More of us are coming.”


Of course...another fine example of AA / PC / diversity bullshit leading the way.

Impertinent said...

And on the race front that Obummer has so totally screwed up after 50 years of forward movement comes this little pearl from the CBC...a racist bunch if there ever was one:

Race riots could ensue if George Zimmerman -- the shooter in the Trayvon Martin case -- is found not guilty of second-degree murder by a Florida jury, the Congressional Black Caucus' executive director allowed yesterday.

"I think a 'not guilty' verdict is extremely problematic in 2012," said Angela Rye, the Executive Director and General Counsel for the Congressional Black Caucus"


Ya just gotta love the "tolerance, the justice, the rationale and the reasoning behind these racist fools"...dont ya?

Are there any blacks in Congress...that actually like / love America?

Impertinent said...

OK...no one else will answer....so I give you...the AG POS...Holder. A scumbag, illiterate, liar, criminal as evidence...IS there any rule of law or justice left in America?

Or are we to be ruled by this corrupt deviant POS...racist puke?

And the arrogant, lying members of the CBC and their ilk forever? Or the screeching Waters and the lying, corrupt Rangels or the racist Jordans?

Do you really believe that black racists should be given another pass for the next 50 years? Or do we hold them accountable as they would....US?

Holder...the "AG"...belongs in jail. He belongs in a Mexican prison at the very least. Have we ever had an AG that was more of a lying POS, scumbag, racist turd in America before him?

Yet...the "ONE" embraces him?

Oh...I know...shhhhhh....don't want to be labeled...do we?

Right Truth said...

We are losing our own "culture" and unless we do something to turn things around quickly, the future looks bleak.

Debbie
Right Truth
http://www.righttruth.typepad.com

Z said...

Imp, I've heard that a lot lately, too...."MY White House" I don't think presidents usually say that but I really feels he's thinking he's KING OF THE HILL.
Have you rec'd that email showing him with his feet all over the furniture? On his desk, shoes on the coffee table in the Oval Office, shoes on the conference table....this is the new creepy America where people don't have respect for things. I think it was Reagan who wouldn't go into the OVal office without a suit and tie. That is such respect and dignity.

Debbie, very bleak...but PC prohibits any good Americans to stand UP and fight for what we believe in. And when people DO stand up and fight, like Breitbart, he's maligned..
FOX was maligned by CNN before they went on the air. I remember so clearly wondering why CNN was slamming a channel that hadn't opened yet..and then, voila, they've never stopped.

I think things COULD change if we had stellar children most of whom were raised loving our country, learning about the ethos of the Founding Fathers, studying the Constitution and learning that we are exceptional. But they don't anymore. ANd it's the Right's teachers who keep quiet in the hopes of teaching how to think, it's the Left that's indoctrinating SO shamefully.

Lisa said...

Pris awesome comment to Ducky!
perfect comparison about sex to Patriotism.

Ducky's here said...

It evens out. From today's Globe:
"A Middlesex Superior Court judge has rejected a lawsuit by an atheist couple and their children who sued the Acton-Boxborough Regional School District and the Acton schools challenging the use of the words “under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Judge S. Jane Haggerty, in a ruling released Friday, said the daily recitation of the pledge with those words did not violate the plaintiffs’ rights under the Massachusetts Constitution, did not violate the school district’s antidiscrimination policy, and did not violate state law.

The plaintiffs, while acknowledging that the children had the right to refuse to participate in the pledge, asserted that the phrase “under God” was a “religious truth” that contradicted their beliefs, Haggerty said.

The defendants argued that the pledge, rather than a religious document or ceremony, is a patriotic exercise and statement of political philosophy, according to the ruling."

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My guess is that in this case the principal wanted to avoid a suit by an atheist.

Ducky's here said...

Ummm, Ducky,
So they're too young to understand the song, but not too young to learn about sex? Get a grip, Ducky!

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Yeah, kindergarteners are filed in for sex education.
Get a grip Pris. Stop eating everything World News Daily puts on your plate.

The fact remains. If you are teaching a young child strictly by rote you are impeding that child's learning.

Read your Piaget. Buy a vowel.

Ducky's here said...

By the way, Pris, at two a child can't grasp the concept country let alone patriotism . You may have memorized the song but you didn't understand it.

Lisa said...

Big tragedy to memorize My Country Tis Of Thee.

Z said...

Ducky, rote is not wrong. We used to have children memorize poetry and they were better for it. They learned cadence, they learned the music of their language and they learned phrasing and vocabulary. It's invaluable but we thought it was 'too rote'. Now they can't even read.

YOU buy a vowel, and stop insulting people here. Pris is the last person who doesn't think for herself.

Stop buying everything Media Matters and Huffington Post is feeding you.

When I teach patriotic songs we talk about it...they don't know what the word PATRIOTISM means but they know about American heroes and I show them pictures of the Grand Cyn and the beaches and large cities and the beauty of the plains states, snow covered mountains, etc., and we talk about those things and how all those things comprise AMerica. They absolutely understand love of this country. They know who Geo. Washington was and Betsy Ross and how they met and they know about Abe Lincoln and they know MLK Jr and Jackie Robinson and that progression...they know Amelia Ehrhart, Thomas Edison, Helen Keller...... Don't kid yourself.

Lisa, you ought to hear my little ones sing that..they're graduating Wed. night and singing it after reciting the pledge. SO cute. Their parents love it, too.

Ducky's here said...

If you'll note,z. I said strictly by rote.

Can I interest you in Dewey?

Z said...

And I'm telling YOU, Ducky, that 'strictly rote' isn't always wrong, either. Did you read my comment? It's rote but they get the language, it's rote but they get music in their ear, it's rote but they do learn through it.

Can I interest you in reading S. I. Hayakawa?

viburnum said...

Lib-Mann: "Lol, more crap for wingnuts to have an aneurism over.

"BREATHES there the man with soul so dead,
Who never to himself hath said,
'This is my own, my native land!' ? ---Walter Scott



Apparently so.

98ZJUSMC said...

“The lyrics are not age-appropriate,”

But, pushing a gay lifestyle is?

Z said...

98Z, exactly.

Viburnum...it sure seems like it, doesn't it.

Ducky's here said...

This just in, they threw out the Bieber song.

Now that one would have offended a few cultures.