Obama's accusing some of "bearing false witness" on the Healthcare situation. I don't know why he bothers to use that phrase when he uses "lies" here: “This notion that somehow we are setting up death panels that would decide on whether elderly people get to live or die … that is just an extraordinary lie.” So, he uses "bearing false witness" and Pelosi spoke the other day with a Catholic priest in a collar standing RIGHT behind her for the TV cameras, and O'Reilly had a liberal nun on for the first time arguing "What would Jesus want regarding a health care program..?" Seeing a trend, folks? All in a matter of 2 days or so. The White House memo is apparently "Now play to the Christians." Those media people hired by the White House are cunning and active, huh? Check out THIS LIST! It does seem more like campaign mode than presidential mode, doesn't it?
By the way, I didn't know the White House commissions prayers before events, did you? And that the White House has to vet them? Read about that HERE. As the article says "If a similar thing had been done by President Bush's White House, I guarantee you there would have been a lot of people crying foul," says Bill Wichterman, deputy director of the Office of Public Liaison under President George W. Bush. "Democrats can do this with immunity, but when Republicans do it, it becomes controversial."
Another clip from the article: "The Obama administration may have skirted controversy by scheduling the invocations to be delivered before the president arrives at the events—and before national cable network cameras start rolling. "Having prayers in places like Indiana where public prayers are commonplace would help the president," says John Green of the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life. "Whereas seeing it on national TV would cause controversy because there are places where these things are less popular."
He also said this ""Men and women of faith have helped to show us what's possible when we're guided by our hopes, and not our fears," Obama said. "That's what you can do again today to help us achieve quality, affordable health care for every American." And he's been suddenly teleconferencing with religious leaders, too.
So, what are they up to? The Christian Push?
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All in a matter of 2 days or so. The White House memo is apparently "Now play to the Christians."
Yep.
BTW, Ramadan has begun.
Oh, very interesting "coincidence", Always.
Jesus wouldn't impose gov healthcare on everybody.
He's such a phony.
Latest example of his phoniness: 2 billion dollars lent to Petrobras for oil exploration Brasil. Petrobras is the 7th most profitable company in the world and doesn't need the money. But one of his core shareholders in Soros whose fund have a majority of Petrobras shares.
So Obamarx should shut the hell up and stop the morality.
I'm sick and tired of this guy.
He suddenly "gets religion" when he is trying to sell his program. Ya. Right.
Hypocrites like Obama have always used religion to cover their greed and ambition. (I admit it exists on both sides of the aisle but the left is never called to task on it while the right is.) Their religion is not Christianity but worship of the state and their compassion for the poor is false as socialism always makes poverty worse.
shoprat I disagree. Socialism doesn't make poverty worse. It makes everybody poor or poorer so everybody's rich. It's all relative.
(sarcasm)
You may want to check out Dr Sanity's take on the same thing.
A Modern Day Elmer Gantry
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2009/08/modern-day-elmer-gantry.html
Thanks, Shoprat, went and left a comment. Dr Sanity did a good job on it and Elmer Gantry is a pretty good illustration of president Obama on this issue and others.
You know, folks...ALL THAT MAN NEEDS TO DO IS GO ON TELEVISION WITH PEOPLE FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND RATIONALLY DISCUSS, POINT BY POINT, THE MAIN ISSUES ON THIS PLAN.
No DEATH PANEL? let them show how it COULD...and let him show how they're wrong.
No RATIONING? Let them show why it must lead to rationing and let him show us all how that's wrong.
No Abortion paid for? Let them show how it could...and let him show them wrong.
Let him show how he's going to pay for it and how it'll bring down the deficit (i can't even type that without laughing)
LET HIM GO POINT BY POINT...You show us YOURS, we'll show you OURS and let the public decide.
But, instead, it's insults, disdain, using religion, using all the White House PR/Media he's unprecedentedly hired.....
Also, LET THOSE AGAINST IT TELL HIM HOW THEY'LL FEEL IF THE DEMOCRATS RAILROAD THIS THROUGH AS THEY'RE THREATENING TO DO.
The man needs a REALLY GOOD DOSE of "THIS IS AMERICA and you're NOT LISTENING and, by the way? You're the FIRST PRESIDENT WHO INSULTS MORE THAN FIFTY PERCENT OF US and WE DON'T LIKE IT"
It is a sneaky political ploy, but I wouldn't expect any less from a politician who learned smash-mouth politics in Chicago.
What is surprising are all the useful idiots BO still has in his pocket.
Let's hope the religious folk wake up and run away from Obamacare as fast as the seniors seem to be running.
he can't do a point-by-point debate, z - he'd never be able to counter anything on the list.
Bearing false witness huh? Well there's only one thing that comes to mind... Pot=Kettle.
In accordance with the holy decree from the White House of the Messiah, this blasphemous post has been reported to both the Missouri Obama Truth Squad and the Executive Office of Inquisition at flag@whitehouse.gov
;)
just posted bho video honoring islam...not the National Day of Prayer...and -definitely NOT Christians--
C-CS
I wonder if Jesus prefers the public option to the co-ops? Maybe Jesus wants single payer.
Would Jesus put in a pacemaker or prescribe painkillers?
Whose vision of health care reform is closer to what Jesus would support? Harry Reid or Kent Conrad? Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank? Does Jesus want us to wait until 2013 to implement ObamaCare or does he want us to implement it now?
What would Jesus do...push for government-run health care or take care of his own brother?
Don't forget, Obama has ridiculed the idea of using scripture to guide public policy.
sickening to the core Z!
Well he honors his Indonesian step father and all the years spent in muslim school.
The guy is really in search for an identity (christian vs muslim, black vs white) while he permanently needs an ego boost.
That's what you get when your 2 parents pretty much ditch you.
Unfortunately we suffer the consequences of this soul searching.
I cannot believe this man's audacity! He speaks of moral responsibility??!! When he supports and encourages infanticide and genocide of the elderly? Not to mention his love for the homosexuals. Yeah, right.
And I am sad to say there are about 30 churches who are now rallying for this health reform bill to pass.
Can people really be that blind and stupid? Who is their Messiah? And are they reading the same bible we are?
"Check out THIS LIST! It does seem more like campaign mode than presidential mode, doesn't it?"
No kidding Z! Campaign mode hasn't stopped for one day since it began over two years ago.
Btw, anyone seen the Obamas leaving church like we did Bush, and Clinton?
President Obama is shameless in his exploitation of anyone or anything for political gain. I don't believe at this point, there is anything he says or does, that isnt political.
In fact I just don't believe him. There are so many lies, it serves no purpose to listen to him.
Now, the target is Christians, perhaps another group tomorrow. The dodging and weaving is dizzying.
When he's not appealing to a segment of the population, he's demonizing another.
He's overexposed, and doesn't seem to like actually doing the work of the office of the President. Bills are being written by Congress. The White House has not presented any of it's own bills.
It's more convenient for the President to be at arms length from the actual work. He can always claim deniability, and change strategy as he sees it to be advantageous, politically.
This President seems more and more to simply be a salesman, and not a very good one at that. Obviously, a President must lead, and that does require the ability to explain, or sell his agenda and policies.
However this President is trying to sell a far left agenda, while trying to make it seem centrist. In other words, he must lie and obfuscate, and it comes down to tactics not earnest presentation.
For anyone to be so presumptuous as to say what Jesus would do, seems to me to be above all our paygrades, and I would hope Obama has at least a modicum of respect to allow him to leave Jesus out of his political agenda, which I believe was Caesar's realm.
Pris
Hey, if underage girls can't get government funded abortions, if paedophiles can't get free Viagra, and if lesbians can't get no-cost fertility treatments, it's Christians fault!
Universal health care is a moral imperative. Hormone treatments for sex change operations don't come cheap!
I have resumed my exchanges in “Quelling misconceptions” with Deborah on the Bayside, beamish on the wayside, and Z on the A-side.
My computer died.
Though it’s a good bet no one here will be glad to hear this, I’m all right now.
Yeah. Right. The Christian Right, they'll just GLOM onto Mr Obama's message right away.
Uh.
No.
BZ
Yes, today Obama honored Islam upon the start of Ramadan...with this:
"These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam's role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings," he added.
Can anybody tell me where islam has done ANY of that in the last 20 years? thanks.."progress"....? Towards Armageddon, or...?
I don't know what to say. At this point, I'd rather keep my mouth shut.
Liberalism is a mental disorder. That's all.
Some here get it. Socialism does make everyone equally miserable.
So, now His highness has let out the news of the deficit being projected for 10 years shall be 9 trillion dollars???
Nine freaking trillion???
And how is this supposed to be helped by nationalizing health care?
But Mr. Obama has just gone off on another vacation. Must be nice.
Servants, vacations, private schools, healthcare that is the best. Must be nice.
Meanwhile I guess we can all go eat cake , eh?
And now Mr. Obama wants those pesky Christians to come save him on health care reform.Oh , my, and he is pulling Jesus into this .
God is not mocked.
WVDOTTR
Such good comments..
Pris, your rebuttals to Obama's remarks are priceless and SO true.
"Better at terrorism than any other culture" .. !!
WV..yes, he's given up on anything else and now evokes Jesus! Isn't that the SAME JESUS Bush once acknowledged and got REAL hell for by the leftwingers? hmmm
Man, I thought the left were whiners during the Bush years, but you've got them beat hands down.
Whine on you crazy loon.
Anon...we just discuss facts here...loony or otherwise.
Thanks for coming by.
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