Wednesday, August 18, 2010

Lesbian Cadets............

So, should a Lesbian have to leave West Point to be 'authentic' to herself?
The article says she excelled at every aspect of the West Point education. She's living under "don't ask, don't tell". She's going to see to it that it that gets repealed.
Katherine Miller says she
"was troubled by the anti-gay attitudes of some around her." Would it be fair to ask her to clarify that statement before printing it? Did anybody ask her if it was really anti-gay (translation by leftwingers: "hate all gays") or just their opinions about gay marriage or the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy? Might that phrase be misleading in the way I suggest? And, don't others have the right to disagree anymore?

She's got it all going for her but she she wants to make love to women. Should she leave West Point? (I know I can trust you all to keep your comments respectful:-)

By the way, I watched a bit of Kathy Griffin on Larry King Live Tuesday night and she was on and on about gay marriage and how that's a CIVIL RIGHT (convince my black girlfriend, okay?) and spewing all of her viewpoints...and I thought "So, when's a person on the side against gay marriage get a chance to laugh and talk and insult her viewpoints!? And will it be a real stick-in-the-mud pastor who's not very articulate again?" How do we fight this stuff? The inference tonight between her and King was that Republicans hate gays and that they're the ONLY people who disagree with gay marriage, and it makes me see how beguiling the left is....how complicit, how they work so well together in painting a very different picture of America than what most Americans feel.... We need comedians, maybe not as debauched and nasty as Griffin, but people who give our other side's viewpoints...don't you think?

z

26 comments:

Chuck said...

I'm a little confused as to why gays need to announce that they are such while in the military.

By my understanding the military does not try to find out if they are gay and only do so when they announce it. What is wrong with leaving well enough alone?

With that said, no one should have to endure harassment. I'm not calling for sensitivity training for our troops but there is no reason why they cannot remain civil and maintain some decorum.

Linda said...

1st of all, why do we need to know if they are gay or not unless we are in the dating pool, looking for someone?

I agree with you, Z. They are the only ones who can criticize.

It is the same with the 'blacks'. I just heard on TV that Dr.Laura is leaving talk radio. She said she will be back, and she wants her 1st Amendment constitutional rights back. Why can one black call another black the N word,but if a white person uses it, it is racist?

Let's get rid of the the double standard.

Linda said...

I don't understand why we can't sign up for follow up comments when we have to sign in for the 1st time of the day. Does anyone know?

Joe Conservative said...

She openned her mouth and told. She needs to go.

Mustang said...

I see your point, Z … but I think there are some topics that do not lend themselves to “stand up” comedy. People have been laughing at the homosexual lifestyle for a long time, and maybe there has been nothing even remotely funny about it at all. If people laugh at such things, perhaps it is merely a reaction to sitting in a comedy club. I do not think any humor makes what homosexuals do seem less disgusting or more unnatural.

As for the lesbian, the left will champion her right to be with women, but no one talks about how men and women will react to her in a unique environment. If we suppose that Miller approaches a subordinate because she is attracted to her, what does that level of fraternization do to the good order and discipline of Miller’s unit? How would such an event affect Miller’s effectiveness as an officer commanding troops? Don’t react to the questions emotionally —think about it carefully.

Now suppose the so-called inappropriate conduct never actually happened. Even if Miller could prove the accusation false, even if the individual making the false accusation punished, Miller would still suffer personal embarrassment and her role as an officer commanding diminished in the eyes of her subordinates.

The fact is that Miller could have been queer and achieved a military career by “not telling” anyone that she is attracted to same-sex relationships. So at this point, I wonder why she would do that. What is HER agenda? I am asking because this knowledge of the Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell policy isn’t a sudden revelation: she was aware of this policy from the very beginning. Why is it suddenly a civil rights issue? Hold on a second, my BS alarm just went off.

Military organizations are the LAST place anyone should want to implement social engineering. The fact is that 99% of Americans are heterosexual; it is a fact that most normal persons regard homosexual behavior as deviant, disgusting, and do not respect nor even want to be around such persons. Within a small unit where one lesbian is commanding 30 heterosexuals, the issue magnifies. Within the military, maintaining good order and discipline is one of the cardinal rules and the foundation of efficiency under the most horrific circumstances known to man: combat.

tha malcontent said...
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tha malcontent said...

I think that a gay person can pull a trigger just as well as a straight person can..
The bottom line is that all members of the military Gay or Straight are subject to the UCMJ (the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So unless they are talking about revising this policy as well, I'm NOT against Gays in the military.
And lets be honest, being gay does NOT mean that you are a child molester. We are not talking about a Michael Jackson. The military does a good job of holding its people and it's leaders accountable.

Z said...

There have been gays in the military since the first military, I suppose...how could there not have been? I'm sure they've fought proudly and with dignity in WWI and WWII.
Seems to me that if they hadn't retained their dignity this would have been a huge topic back then, too.

I am using this point and Kathy Griffin/Larry King, as just another example of the left's viewpoints airing on mainstream TV, by people some in America respect or enjoy as entertainment...to forward their agendas.
You will not see engaging, humorous people discussing topics like this from the other viewpoint...but you'll see, for example, Bill Maher, acting as if his viewpoint is the only viewpoint and everybody else is satan for thinking as they do...that dismissive thing that is so beguiling and convincing...

christian soldier said...

she knew the DADT mandate when she applied and was accepted-so-
did she lie to herself or to West Point?
and thus- to us in the US!!
C-CS

Z said...

let me clarify my statement; you'll hear good people discussing these things with humor and insight but not on mainstream venues.

Carol, she's now going to dedicate herself to getting DON'T ASK DON'T TELL overturned...

I think Chuck's right ... why should anyone's sexuality be discussed in the military at all? No one should endure harassment, and they'd not be harassed if they just did their job, I'd guess...

Opus #6 said...

I suspect she is somehow inadequate to the rigors of the school. She is now covering for the fact by quitting in a flamboyant way.

Ducky's here said...

She was 9th in her class and she's been admitted to Yale. Pretty inadequate.

Anonymous said...

Gays in the military are not conducive to the maintenance of a "Cincinnatus" model of military service. It's more conducive to the maintenance of a "Spartan" or "Theban Sacred Band" model of military service (aka - permanent warfare state).

How far we've removed ourselves from the "founding" ideal of a volunteer force of "temporary" soldiers... Ernst Rohm would be proud.

Anonymous said...

She was 9th in her class and she's been admitted to Yale.

Yeah, Yale has a pretty tough obstacle course...

soapster said...

"The fact is that 99% of Americans are heterosexual; it is a fact that most normal persons regard homosexual behavior as deviant, disgusting, and do not respect nor even want to be around such persons."

I'd love to see some concrete data to support this.

Anonymous said...

FYI - for those who might deny the importance of the "Cincinnatus" model to the US military...

Anonymous said...

Of course, educating "little Napoleon's" is what socialism is all about...

Brooke said...

If you're smart enough to be admitted to Yale in grade nine, then you should be smart enough to figure out military policy and either try to change it AFTERWARDS or not go at all.

Anonymous said...

I'd love to see some concrete data to support this.

...and I'd like to see some concrete data to the contrary not performed w/pink $$$.

Ducky's here said...

No Brooke, she was ninth in her class at the academy.

Hardly a slouch and probably someone worth retaining.

Z said...

Brooke, seems like she should have seen to changing policy before she joined a military academy with that policy?..instead of doing it now?

Anonymous said...

Hardly a slouch and probably someone worth retaining.

Not if she's gay and incapable of following orders like, "don't ask, don't tell."

Major said...

Simple solution...No Gays or Lesbians in the military. I've never wanted to see women in combat, period. Nor does 99% of the enlisted or officer corp.

PC...is a trap and a completely flawed way to run a military organization. You have no damn rights in the military. You do what you're told, when you're told.

Let he graze somewhere else on the planet...but out of the Army.

Major

Major said...

Sorry..."let HER graze"...

Z said...

Major, I even get a little nervous when I see a female cop get out of a squad car when there's a problem...
no females in combat; period.

Brooke said...

Oopsie.

My point remains valid.

Oh, and they didn't drum her out... She left.