One Chilean miner just might be asking "Can I go LAST? After you...no after YOU....you go, I'll go later............no, that's OK, YOU go first!" as they wait in line to inch up that long, long shaft to freedom and fresh air. He might want to go last because his wife heard a woman yelling his name when the cave-in happened and found out that was his mistress...read HERE!He might be the miner who isn't quite as glad as the others that they'll be coming up very SOON.......which is GOOD NEWS. (For most of them, that is!)
By the way, I have no trouble admitting that I'm very sure I'd have never made it like these guys have..........could YOU have even gone down there to work let alone stayed sane in this situation?
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Heh... she wants him out of their so she can have a whack at him, heh. Guess he'd rather die?
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Ooo. Maybe coming up will be more painful than staying down.
Could you guys have lasted down there for a minute? I couldn't have.
I know those miners are trained for that, or it just plain never bugged them, but it horrifies me! Even that 15 minutes in the cage on the way up! UGH.
I would think they'd go stir crazy, but maybe they're so used to that environment it doesn't have that effect.
Maybe where they are under there, is a rather large space. Either way, I'm with you Z, I couldn't stand it in the first place.
Dark, dank, and trapped for months? Whoa! Oh, and this guy's wife must be formidable. This could make a heck of a movie.
Hard to discern what's more dangerous, trapped in a mine, or a woman scorned!
Pris
I admire miners.
See that's for people like that I don't mind unions. Not people who work as paper pusher in gov.
What Joe said!
Oh, my. If that's true, it's hilarious!
She's going to kill him.
i couldn't even go down there. i got trapped in an elevator for 15 minutes once - i nearly went crazy. i never knew i was claustrophobic until then. hmmm... pris has a point on which is more dangerous.
as for frogburgers, comment about unions - unions have always been about power and money for the union leaders and not for the workers. even in the public sector, those who work for the union offices make gobs more money than those whom they represent.
sort of like liberal government hacks - we all need to give up our money to share with others. yes, primarily to share with them!
heidianne, i don't mind unions when their goal is to improve tough working conditions. It's legit people associate to pressure people in this case. Unfortunately, yes, unions tend to ask for a lot more and have become too political.
It's just not black and white.
I'm with FB on unions...they served a purpose but they've become ridiculous and, in the case of miners and other jobs this physically difficult, I believe people should still step in and stand up for the workers;
Too bad it can't just be the owners who'd protect their workers for the sake of their protection!
Brooke, it's absolutely true, no doubt about it.
I found it odd that the first people up are going to be the healthy, THEN the sick, then the foreman....any input on why? Maybe they're checking the cage but who'd want to be THAT canary?!
we will have to agree to disagree on the question of unions. history shows us that the best way to old the rare greedy bastard accountable is through the market.
if the worker get their plight known and organize a campaign to orchestrate boycotts, then that will have the most long lasting effect on the condition of the workers. unions don't care about the conditions of the workers nor the company, they care about union power and money.
boycotts work - intimidation of "management" only works in the short term. eventually there is a price to pay when union demands out reach what the market will bear.
and just like with a government out of control heady on the idea of its own power, the union will NEVER acknowledge that it needs to scale back its "requirements". and what about the workers? yes they make amazing money for a while, but when they've priced their product out of the market, then what?
oops - that should have read "...the best way to hold..."
I can't even get in a tubular MRI...I could not last 17 seconds down there.
heidianne if people decide to ally it's also the market. It's the market of labor.
don't get me wrong, I am not defending the destructive behavior of unions. But that's a separate issue. Destructive behavior of unions should be punished by the market. Instead we bail them out (GM).
There are countries where unions are a lot smarter and work with management better. One of them is Germany.
FB, they do work better with management, you rarely see a strike but they can be pretty demanding and vociferous..UNLIKE the nastiness coming in France over the thought that they might have to work until SIXTY TWO YEAR OLD before they live off their neighbors :-)
don't get me started on the lazy french
MOI?
Z - I could do better down below than coming up. There's the panic attack due to claustrophobia, and the nausea from the 350 degree turns. I'd never make it.
Prayers for them.
Hi Sue...amazing enough, I just came to comment that FOX is saying they're worried in Chile that that one hour in the tube coming up (I'd heard 15 min this morning) will cause claustrophobia, etc...I thought "They've been down there about TWO MONTHS in that small place with no fresh air and no meds and not knowing when they'll ever get out and NOW they think they'll have claustrophobia?" I don't see that myself.
I'd HATE being down below (probably wouldn't have made it) and HATE being in that tube for an hour but at least they know that hour's going to bear fruit...like the MRI's I"ve had in the tube...I knew there was an end so it was worth it, you know?
I think it's plain weird doctors are worried that NOW they're going to have problems.
I just thought more about getting into that tight cage and am a bit more sympathetic, so I have the SOLUTION (drum roll..)
AMBIEN!!! Put them to sleep! what's the down side?!!
Z - I haven't heard anything but 15 minutes in the tube.
That's an interesting thought - Ambien! I'm sure they must have considered something like that,but as I said, I think it's only 15 minutes - unless, of course there are problems.
With all the advancements man has made, you'd think they could come up with something other than working 1/2 mile in the ground.
I'm going to watch the coverage way into the night. For some reason I can't turn it off.
BTW - I could never get an MRI. That would definitely freak me out.
Oh for heaven's sake. Are these men? They've been down there for how long, two months?
They want out! They can handle it because they have to. The problem is, none of those above want to be responsible.
Good grief, how did we ever go to the moon?
Pris
i'm curious to know what type of conversations went on down there. you think enduring something like that together would cause them to bond and form tight friendships, or get sick of each other and not want to see each other for a long while?
tio
I can't watch the coverage; I just saw Manuel Gonzalez, the first rescue worker to go down. I swear, after seeing that cage on TV and how tight it is and how tight that tunnel is...? THERE IS SO NO WAY! I can't BELIEVE the nerve of the rescue workers to endanger their lives like this; to even go DOWN there in that ninety degrees of stink and heat and fear? Oh, GOD.
I'd forgotten about how close it is AROUND the cage....
God forbid any of us are ever in this position...Please, GOd.
tio, that's a good question. They were all eating lunch together in that capsule when the cave-in happened...I suppose they were rather friendly anyway.
What do you think?
I know you all know this, but I"d asked why the healthiest are coming up first and they're saying that was in case they had problems with the capsule, tunnel, etc...that the healthiest might be able to survive better if some glitch occurred.
This is SO exciting to watch tonight.......still, we have to pray all continues to go so well........it's clear that some of the miners won't be jumping out as hale and hearty as the first two did. God bless them all.
Those are SOME courageous guys, especially the rescue workers who knowingly put themselves in danger like that.
Z - You just summed up my feelings.
This is an amazing thing to watch. I'm hanging on as long as I can and pray there are no problems.
Did you all see that one miner who came up with a bag and was passing out something to a few rescuers? The news reporter said "He's brought up gifts" and I thought "What, from the mine GIFT SHOP?" I asked my sister about that and we were giggling and she said "imagine him telling them to stop the capsule on the gift shop floor so he could buy a few things?"
Geeeesh!!
He would leave drag marks along the wall to prolong the ascent, or maybe just let the tube go up empty.
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