Please, PLEASE read THIS ARTICLE if you read nothing else today. Some of you know who John Fund is and he wants you to know this:In January, Chuck Schumer and Barney Frank will propose universal voter registration. What is universal voter registration? It means all of the state laws on elections will be overriden by a federal mandate. The feds will tell the states: 'take everyone on every list of welfare that you have, take everyone on every list of unemployed you have, take everyone on every list of property owners, take everyone on every list of driver's license holders and register them to vote regardless of whether they want to be...' Here's more from the article:
The problems with universal voter registration are numerous and obvious. Many state lists include vast numbers of illegals, including some states which allow illegals to obtain driver's licenses; because many homeowners have more than one home there will be duplicates; because so many people are on so many separate federal and state government agency lists, there will be duplicates, and because so many lists exist with little or no cross-checking capability these duplicates are likely to go uncorrected. Add to this the fact that Dems hope to extend voting rights to felons and the whole thing begins to look like a nationwide Democrat voter registration drive facilitated by taxpayers. (and, if you don't believe this, you probably believe ROCK THE VOTE was to get 'everyone' to vote !! :-)
Check out the link, watch the video...................bye bye, Miss American Pie. And, they're slipping this by with little or no public discussion; Where's the media and why aren't they mentioning it? If you like MOTOR VOTER , check this out AND Obama's hand in it:
The Motor Voter law was correctly identified as a facilitator of vote fraud. One of the few legal issues Barack Obama actually participated in as a lawyer was a 1995 suit against the State of Illinois, which he brought on behalf of ACORN. Then Republican Governor Jim Edgars saw the newly passed Motor Voter act as creating the potential for massive vote fraud and refused to implement it. With the assistance of the Clinton Justice Department, Obama's legal team won that suit.
Americans need to know this..............but our media's too in the bag for selling us down the river.
z
33 comments:
There's nothing the Obama administration won't attempt to take over.
It seems to me, this action would pre-empt state's rights and responsibilty in the election process. The feds will no doubt want to be drawing up the new districts across the states based on the census, and no doubt with creative boundary lines for said districts. This is a state responsibility.
Governors across the country have to unite and fight this. It's another step for power of the central government every dictatorial rule requires.
How long before the electoral college is no more? Representative government would take a beating, because the thugocracy would see to it. This is no small thing. In fact, it's huge.
This administration will stop at nothing to become too big and powerful to stop.
Everything the administration has done, and is doing, is to consolidate it's power.
Pris
So, here is the reason that the Dems on Capitol Hill as so resistant to the will of the people. They've got election-fraud plans in mind so that they can't be held accountable.
Election fraud indeed... and right out in the open too. We don't even need a fake pimp and prostitute to uncover it this time.
THERE ARE NO MORE LIBERALS IN AMERICA; JUST LIARS & THE PEOPLE WHO LISTEN TO THEM!!!! I should be much more worried about The Ice Caps melting, Going bankrupt by my spiraling healthcare costs & Getting another stimulus package thru congress than I should be about some unsubstantiated threat like those Mythological Islmo-Fascist's... DO you here that???
Some of you know who John Fund is
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He's a convicted wife beater who use to write for the Journal, maybe still does.
I didn't think John Fund ever married duhkkky?
I can't find anything on him being convicted of anything duhkkky, care to provide a link?
I saw this on FOX last night, and I can't help but wonder... even though we do know about this, will it make any difference?
the charges were dropped duhkkky, I guess the woman was mentally ill
Pathetic. Even in France, where everyone seems to be state-dependent, you have to register yourself and be an active citizen.
But the American Left is a corrupted and fascistic one so that's why.
I hope states go to court and tell them to #@#@# off.
Obama believes if he just tones down the rhetoric against terrorist, they will stop. The "underwear" bomber proves that strategy does not work.
Hey Z, just saw where prisoners behind bars is Maine and Vermont are allowed to vote, and Washington state is now going for it, too. Their argument? "most of the prisoners are minorities, so taking away their vote waters down their electoral power".
Jen, please tell me you're joking.
FrogBurger said:
I hope states go to court and tell them to #@#@# off.
This is something that states attorneys general can work on!
The role of state attorney general is often overlooked. It shouldn't be!
Nice try Ducky, John Fund could be Bluebeard for all I care. The fact is he's only a messenger. I'm concerned with the issue.
Tell me Ducky, do you like the government grasping all this power? I thought this far left ideology was going to work differently here than other countries. Yeah right!
Perhaps now you can begin to see Marxism, Fascism, requires the oppression of the people, to work.
The biggest difference in America, is the people's response to this thuggery and grab for power. We still prize our freedom.
If your side needs criminals and convicts to win, how pathetic are you? No honor, no justice, no compassion, thuggery and hate. That's what I see coming from your side.
Yes, pathetic.
Pris
The DNC strategy for 2010....
Jes' keep dumbin' it down
Pris, WELL SAID. Messengers get killed when the leftwingers hate the message so much; look how they've skewered Palin.
FJ....when will America SEE THAT?
Thanks Z, ol' Ducky's trying to change the subject, again. The old bait n switch. So predictable. He obviously is not comfortable with many issues.
Pris
Nope, not kidding. It's not surprising. The goal is to get every possible vote, be it human, animal, mineral, or vegetable.
Maine probably wouldn't be a swing state were it not for the felons.
Jen - now that I think about it, the administration is full of tax cheats, the White House deals in bribes, slander, flouting the constitution, and generally, thuggery, so why should we be surprised at felons voting for potential felons?
Pris
One of the local talk radio hosts was ripping Obama a new one tonight on the whole "we'll do it on CSPAN" thing. She was a riot, even went as far as saying it should be a rock band name... "Do It On CSPAN."
Her name escapes me, Dana something. You probably saw her on YouTube video of Tea PArty rallies back when Obama's SEIU thugs were enacting the leftist tendency to violently oppose dissenting views here in St. Louis.
The National Voter Registration Act (NVRA), passed in 1993, intended to simplify voter registration, required agencies in the various states that administer food stamps and unemployment benefits to also distribute the registration materials for voting. The law accounted for 2.6 million new registrants in the first two years after taking effect. But lax enforcement of the law has led to a 79 percent reduction in the number of registrations at public assistance agencies since 1996, and in 2008, the Justice Department revealed that as many as 18 states were under investigation for skirting the law. Under Clinton in the 1990s, the DOJ routinely filed lawsuits against states in order to ensure compliance with the law. Under Bush, however, enforcement of NVRA---also known as the “Motor Voter” law since it also requires that eligible citizens be provided the chance to register to vote when applying for a driver’s license---was spotty, if not non-existent.
The rogue behavior of a large number of states flouting the law makes more effective revised legislation necessary.
"The rogue behavior of a large number of states flouting the law makes more effective revised legislation necessary."
I don't expect the government to take care of an individual's registration to vote. Registration to vote is not complicated.
To demand hunting these people down to register them is nonsense, and wastes resources. Furthermore, motor voter is vulnerable to fraud, as is the absentee ballot which is now given out like candy.
Frankly, if a citizen has so little desire to vote he can't make a trip to the post office or a political party headquarters to register, we're better off if he doesn't vote.
Chances are he doesn't care, and because he doesn't care, and is likely not to be informed enough to know what he's doing.
In any case, is there nothing the government will leave alone, and trust the people with?
Do we prefer the uninterested to be dragged to the polls by partisans who tell them how to vote?
Leaving this to the federal government is also an invitation to fraud, considering what the majority in Congress and the administration at present, are willing to do to win. And isn't this really what all of this is about?
Pris
"The rogue behavior of a large number of states flouting the law makes more effective revised legislation necessary."
I don't expect the government to take care of an individual's registration to vote. Registration to vote is not complicated.
You speak for yourself. Others may lead more complicated lives. Registration to vote is not complicated; however, it may be hard for many to schedule.
To demand hunting these people down to register them is nonsense, and wastes resources. Furthermore, motor voter is vulnerable to fraud, as is the absentee ballot which is now given out like candy.
To facilitate voter registration for those for whom it is a problem is a sensible investment in democracy and representative government. There is has always been a potential for fraud in the voting system through the absentee ballot, drivers’ licenses, and other sources.
Frankly, if a citizen has so little desire to vote he can't make a trip to the post office or a political party headquarters to register, we're better off if he doesn't vote.
Actually, America is not better off if a large class of voters that are often detested by well-off voters is not included in the democratic process because of intractable pressures of their hard-working lives.
Chances are he doesn't care, and because he doesn't care, and is likely not to be informed enough to know what he's doing.
This is a harsh elitist attitude common among rightwing ideologues who are not troubled by the exclusion of many of the underprivileged from the voting process.
In any case, is there nothing the government will leave alone, and trust the people with?
You exaggerate, Priscilla. The government does not tell anyone whom he should vote for.
Do we prefer the uninterested to be dragged to the polls by partisans who tell them how to vote?
No one can verify for whom a person casts his vote. Both sides transport people to the polls.
Leaving this to the federal government is also an invitation to fraud, considering what the majority in Congress and the administration at present, are willing to do to win. And isn't this really what all of this is about?
Computerization of a single universal list will make it easier and more efficient to find multiple entries in the list. Despite the usual vilifying conspiracy theories from the right, new legislation
Computerization of a single universal list will make it easier and more efficient to find multiple entries in the list. Despite the usual vilifying conspiracy theories from the right, new legislation.
finding mutliple entries or any entries that just listed 500,000 names..he it worked for finding terrorists on the watch list. Just ask Janet.
"You speak for yourself. Others may lead more complicated lives. Registration to vote is not complicated; however, it may be hard for many to schedule."
Yes, I speak for myself. However, since people will wait in line, and sleep on a sidewalk waiting for a movie premiere, or a special sale for a new video game player, I feel safe in saying they can find time seven days a week to go to their local political party headquarters to register.
"Actually, America is not better off if a large class of voters that are often detested by well-off voters is not included in the democratic process because of intractable pressures of their hard-working lives."
So, those you call well off aren't hard working or aren't under intractable pressures?
I would think the ones who are detested are people like you who think their "underlings" can't survive, or vote, without their "superiors" holding their hands.
"This is a harsh elitist attitude common among rightwing ideologues who are not troubled by the exclusion of many of the underprivileged from the voting process."
Spoken by a typical elitist who believes those who are called underprivileged, are excluded from the voting process. No one is excluded from the voting process because of their socio economic class.
Furthermore, it is elitist to believe those who are deemed "underprivileged", can't function without those, like you, who look down their noses at anyone who don't "rise" to your imaginary level of superiority.
Pris
This made me so, so angry. I had to leave the computer for several hours. I played a game of Wii golf with hubby and found myself slamming the wand. I'm still mad!
Computerization of a single universal list will make it easier and more efficient to find multiple entries in the list.
Elmers Brother: finding mutliple entries or any entries that just listed 500,000 names..he it worked for finding terrorists on the watch list. Just ask Janet.
One of the problems in the recent bombing incident is that many separate lists are maintained for persons of interest, not a single universal list. Just read the papers.
A large universal list of registered voters can easily be sorted and searched by a computer algorithm to locate multiple entries of the same person.
"You speak for yourself. Others may lead more complicated lives. Registration to vote is not complicated; however, it may be hard for many to schedule."
Yes, I speak for myself. However, since people will wait in line, and sleep on a sidewalk waiting for a movie premiere, or a special sale for a new video game player, I feel safe in saying they can find time seven days a week to go to their local political party headquarters to register.
When you assume that people who supposedly sleep on the sidewalk waiting for tickets are the same folks for whom registering to vote is a substantial problem, you speak for yourself. Perhaps, for example, they would need a taxi to get to the local political party headquarters or voter precinct site, since they may not have a car. And some people are working seven days a week or working more than one job. Speaking for yourself, you see no great problem in registering to vote, but I would not presume to speak for others I don't know; I would think it naïve to do so.
"Actually, America is not better off if a large class of voters that are often detested by well-off voters is not included in the democratic process because of intractable pressures of their hard-working lives."
So, those you call well off aren't hard working or aren't under intractable pressures?
In general, people who are well-off have more free time, and registering to vote is not much of the problem for them.
I would think the ones who are detested are people like you who think their "underlings" can't survive, or vote, without their "superiors" holding their hands.
I think that most people who need help appreciate getting it, that they don’t strike uncompromising ideological poses, such as you suggest.
"This is a harsh elitist attitude common among rightwing ideologues who are not troubled by the exclusion of many of the underprivileged from the voting process."
Spoken by a typical elitist who believes those who are called underprivileged, are excluded from the voting process. No one is excluded from the voting process because of their socio economic class.
Declared like a typical rightwing élitist who bristles at the very existence of a concept of underprivileged citizens, since the right assumes they are mostly leftist (many may be cultural conservatives who vote Republican). No one is excluded from the voting process because of his socio-economic class, but it is known that, in practice, many are excluded by burdens of making a living that are disproportionately distributed in the less fortunate socio-economic classes.
Furthermore, it is elitist to believe those who are deemed "underprivileged", can't function without those, like you, who look down their noses at anyone who don't "rise" to your imaginary level of superiority.
In truth, I do not consider myself superior to the underprivileged. Nonetheless, it is typical of rightwing ideologues to politicize and personalize the argunent in that ad hominem way. I believe our country benefits when the government makes voting as easy as it can for the greatest number of legitimate voters.
One of the problems in the recent bombing incident is that many separate lists are maintained for persons of interest, not a single universal list. Just read the papers.
so what...Amazon can keep track of me and so does the VA and the IRS.
and besides all the panty bomber had to do was throw in a couple more vowels and nobody would have checked him.
Elmers Brother: One of the problems in the recent bombing incident is that many separate lists are maintained for persons of interest, not a single universal list. Just read the papers.
so what...Amazon can keep track of me and so does the VA and the IRS.
The integration of the information in the various lists for use by a single watchdog agency for collecting intelligence on your subversive activities could be a problem, given differing regulations on sharing.
Elmers Brother: and besides all the panty bomber had to do was throw in a couple more vowels and nobody would have checked him
a single computerized list with multiple data fields within each individual entry enables cross-checking across birth date, birth place, and other ID information.in addition to a name and its variations.
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