Thursday, July 23, 2009

Priscilla's Post (it's been too long since we had one, right? Well, it was worth waiting for) I have added Klaus's response from this morning

Priscilla writes this to Klaus, our friend in Germany who, with Mr. Z, wrote that post about how Germany would handle czars and health care bills if they happened to have that going on there now (just a few posts down) Also, at the end of this letter, I printed the email I just received from Klaus to Priscillla. Of course, I believe both writers here are speaking to us ALL, so I'm printing as they come):

To Klaus, (THIS PACKS A PUNCH, FOLKS....READ ON!)

What we have at the head of our government are thugs. They're shredding the constitution and the spirit of what is the American way.
We might as well have been taken over by a coup d'etat. The politicians in congress should respond to these tactics with a mutiny.
But, they go along, either because they themselves are physically afraid, or afraid of what information may be trotted out about them or against them. That's called blackmail. Thugs rule. Thugs "make you an offer you can't refuse"!
You should know that the American people elected this man, I believe, in an emotional, well meaning desire to make things right with the making of an historical first in America; A black president who seemed to be the genuine article in terms of wanting the best for America.
They ignored his associations, lack of experience, and could not see what many others of us saw. A man who rose too quickly to prominence from seemingly modest circumstances. A man who, in a substantive sense told us little of what he believed, and what, specifically, he wanted for America.
He repeated his mantra of “change” and “yes we can”, so that I think there was almost an hypnotic call to believe in him, but they did not ask, “change” to what? “Yes we can“, do what? I must tell you, for me, it was rather frightening to see a mindless response of millions of people. It has happened before down through history, and once again has been repeated. Yes it is indeed a truism, history does repeat itself. Not long ago, it happened in Venezuela, before that, years ago, in Cuba. It is nothing new.

But, in America? The land of the free? Yes. The reason being, people believed what they wanted to believe.

There were revealing moments. Many of us took note, many more did not or dismissed the naysayers. They wanted to follow this piper, and follow they did.

We have checks and balances in our form of government, but because there is one party in power, in two branches of our government, they hold sway, and the most powerful among them are of like minds with the President. So, they trample over our system and the American people with breakneck speed, before we can absorb information and engage in debate. We are lied to, misled, and overwhelmed. They are thugs.
More and more though, we see resistance to this leadership, and signs the people are waking from their apathy. I hope and pray it’s not too late. Our children deserve the same legacy we inherited from our mothers and fathers.
And that is simply, to be a free people, unencumbered by those elected representatives we have given the honor of not ruling us, but, serving us, and respecting us.

I have a request of you and your people. Pray for us. America as we have known her, is in jeopardy, and we are in need of strength, and God’s grace.

Thank you, Priscilla. Thank YOU, Priscilla.......I know you speak for a lot of us. Here is Klaus's email I got this morning, Thursday:

Dear Priscilla:


I read your detailed comments with great interest. Thank you so much. Here, from Germany, I'm obviously not as close to the daily political events in the U.S. Nevertheless, I also recognize from here what political hazards the people in the United States have to deal with at present.

However, I am of the opinion that with all the disastrous events, a distinction should be drawn whether they are GOVERNMENT-caused or SYSTEM-caused (existing law, constitution, rules, guidelines etc). System-caused dangerous and fundamental errors and deficiencies, established, approved, or at least tolerated by all political parties , cannot be simply dismissed by the voters, a dismissal the voters can do to political parties and its leaders through their votes, of course.

That is why I was even more afraid when I had to learn from Z and what I read here in the German papers about how laws are sometimes passed so quickly and unread, and undebated, in congress.
As long as we "merely" have to deal with political leaders and parties we will ALWAYS have the chance for change (but different to the BHO style- ergo a re-change !). As I said before ( with the limited insight of an alien, but one who does read a lot and consider a lot of the American news here) the most important issue is to wake up more of those people who are BH-mesmerized and to help to reduce the percentage of voters which ignore matter of facts and are too lazy to think, preferring to "let think" by others.
It is wonderful and deserving of thanks that there are people like Z , you, and others who take care of such needs.
Good luck and success, Klaus

Z: I just got this in an email and felt it fit: "It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and, at no distant period, a great Nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a People always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence." --George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796

Thanks, Klaus and Priscilla, I've enjoyed this exchange and hope our readers did, too! z

38 comments:

namaste said...

very beautifully written. thanks for sharing.

~m

Always On Watch said...

We are lied to, misled, and overwhelmed. They are thugs.

In other words, Chicago politics.

Excellent post!

Sue said...

I don't know who Priscilla is, but I like the way she thinks! She is exactly right! Thanks for sharing. It helps to see someone else put the thoughts you are thinking into words. It makes me feel hopeful, reading all these blogs, that maybe change IS coming...just not the kind BO had in mind.

Pat Jenkins said...

depsite whoever may be leading, the people still hold the power in this country, as the healthcare debate has proven. let us hope this "system" will forever stay in place!!!

Faith said...

Absolutely right on, Priscilla.

I hope the signs of resistance are going to grow strong enough to accomplish something, but the problem with thugs in government power is that they respond to resistance with thug power and bloody tyrannical crack-down or maybe bloody revolution or both is the end result.

Only time will tell.

RightKlik said...

We're making progress. Shortly after the election, I could see little hope. But America is waking up. We can see that with the way ObamaCare is being received.

The_Editrix said...

Sadly right on target!

DaBlade said...

Very nice. A few questions though. You call on the politicians in congress to mutiny, but when is it our responsibility? When will we need our own Boris Yeltsin to stand in front of the Obama tanks? Certainly on the outside, if he tries to repeal or ignore the 22nd Amendment. How many more $Trillions can he actually flush down the toilet...

psi bond said...

Watch out for would-be demagogues shrilly calling elected leaders thugs.

Mark said...

Z, if you wonder why I don't comment more often, it's because you cover the subjects sop well, anything I could add would be superfluous.

Well done!

beamish said...

When Obama succeeds on driving his disapproval ratings above 51% and his approval ratings below 49% (and he's working on it), Democrats in Congress are going to start thinking about the elections in 2010 and abandoning him in droves. This health care putsch is already getting Democrats to question the leadership of a President with less than 2 years experience as a Senator using his staple gun skills to run a TV commercial telling America that he and the Democrats in Congress have a "plan to fix health care" when they don't. At all. Lots of arguing amongst themselves ("You're going to destroy my Presidency!"), but no plan for us to look at.

Many of them came into office in 2006 dressed as "fiscal conservatives" and pulled it off, largely because Republican incumbents had no defense on this front.

In 2010, running against Obama is going to be hip.

And devastating to Democrat incumbents.

Who's your Messiah now, bitches?

Joe said...

Well said! There is nothing to add, only to pray.

Z said...

Didn't Pris do a great job? Thanks, everybody.

Namaste, I want everyone here to know they should see YOUR piece on Professor Gates, you did a great job on that. it's important.

Always....thugs, indeed. Chicago politics at their worse.

Sue....Priscilla is a frequent commenter and friend of mine..and she's written a bunch of pieces I called PRISCILLA'S POST (see my sidebar, you won't be disappointed!)

CHANGE IS COMING, SUE.. do not worry.

Pat, we showed it with amnesty last year and we seem to have killed the thug bill from Obama for health care; when people push that hard, HURRY HURRY, add lots of things nobody's reading (including the authors and the man who advocates for it!?), that's a thug bill.
It'll never pass even written closely to the original nightmare.
WHY kill ALL OUR HEALTHCARE to help the small percentage who might need help, indeed.

Faith; they have started the THUG thing with their treatment of Joe the Plumber; American presidential candidates just DON'T slam the common America for having had the guts to merely QUESTION politely your stances...when you do, and you call in your henchmen to pile it on later, you're a THUG.

RightKlik...I agree..
Editrix..........isn't it just?

DaBlade, we're getting close...Tea Parties are a good start.
They've now tried to pass a bill saying you can't have a gun from one state into the other...that won't last, either..People are waking up to the THUGS and we can see, even today, how Obama is finally backing off the nasty way he pushes for bills and making it look like it's his idea this bill waits till September! HILARIOUS.

Psi...if people didn't act like thugs, I would be so loath to use that term; another one as pithy and true simply doesn't come to mind. I'm with you...how awful to have to call a president a name like that, indeed. I grieve.

Beamish, thanks.....it's ALL about "MY PRESIDENCY" not the country.

Mark...i like your comments...fire away, but thanks for the compliment..much appreciated.

Joe...Amen

Ducky's here said...
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Ducky's here said...

Well, it certainly isn't shaping up to be an effective presidency, is it.

And neither have the last several.

The country is in decline, and as long as we try to cling to the flotsom of dumb aphorisms, left and right it will continue to decline.
The days when a small percentage of the world population here in America can use 35% of the world's resources ARE OVER FOLKS. Obama has just been trying to refloat that boat. Come on folks, for once do the math and stop the partisan bickering.

There's work to do and as a nation we are structurally incapable of getting it done. You think this is going to be solved by a bunch of birthers and tea baggers or burned out hippies?
Shards and fragments. We have become a sorry people and the fault is us. Cheer up, when it's over, some of you still won't have insurance but you'll have defeated Obama which is the only objective, correct?

FrogBurger said...

Ducky the imbecile is at it again with his valuable comments.

Your folks can't fix it so now nobody can?

The world is using less resources b/c most of it is starving or has a pathetic economy due to lack of freedom, dictatorships, genocide and tribes killing each other and it's our fault?

Why don't you go do your self loathing at home with your buddies?

I'm sick and tired of your kind and the permanent guilt trip and loathing of Western civilization or the US for that matter when it has brought so much, including saving my family's butt in two wars.

Idiot!

FrogBurger said...

Why does the left like Ducky thinks making everybody equal in a miserable state will solve problems of the world?

Haven't they learned this pseudo equality in misery only leads to people being slaves of a few thugs like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Castro?

God their ignorance is limitless.

heidianne jackson said...

not much to add because pris (and others here) have already done such a grand job of it. thanks for this piece, pris and to z for posting this and the one from mr. lewis and mr. z. pris, your writing puts me in mind of two of my favorite favorite quotes that is more applicable now than ever (imho):

"Our legislators are not sufficiently apprised of the rightful limits of their powers; that their true office is to declare and enforce only our natural rights and duties, and to take none of them from us. No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another; and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." -- Thomas Jefferson (1816)1

"Resist, resist, resist, until we hurl the demagogues and tyrants from their imaginary thrones." --- Alexander Hamilton

and one other from my favorite uncle who has quoted here on ocassion as "old curmudgeon" that seems to fit nicely with frogburger's statements:

“Assert and exercise your Individual Sovereignty to the fullest extent possible without incurring fines, jail-time, or an appearance before a firing squad of statist thugs.” --- David Michael Myers, 2009

Z said...

Ducky, YES, the defeat of Obama is paramount to everything else in order to save this country. Sad, but true. Is it most of our wish that we didn't need to be fighting our president to get this country back on track? Of course; we should all be WORKING TOGETHER, as you suggest. ..but, sadly, that's not in our cards today. We can't have a man of his ilk, of his character (Witness SO many things including the Gates incident)running things, planning and saying what he does. Yes, we have to fight obama.

YOu said "The days when a small percentage of the world population here in America can use 35% of the world's resources ARE OVER FOLKS."
Sadly, the days are up where we'll be saving the butts of 35% of the world's populations, too...does that bother you?
You make it sound like we stole those resources, but the world will be stealing ours now through C&T; China and India spewing into our world and all we do is trade credits for money!? (they're still spewing..what's more important, cutting pollution or looking like we're the big GREEN GUYS$$$?)
As Obama seems to suggest, is saving the poor in Africa REALLY part of our stimulus for our ECONOMY? We've already sent billions there to help build them up; a friend's son is there now with the Peace Corps, ...how's that worked for them or us? Sure didn't help Rhodesia, huh?

If this country's kids in the last 25 years had not been taught only the bad about America, we would be every bit up at bat, ready to swing a home run for America again; hard work, good education and good morals were the important things until liberality came up with the typical kinds of "if it feels good, do it" "America has slaves, so we STINK in everything and need to apologize to the whole world" "Who are WE to have nukes and not N Korea?" stuff we're trying to recover from now, you know that.
There is no UTOPIA, DUCK..and Utopia won't work any better than socialism EVER has anywhere....
But, it's America, and she deserves a president who loves her, who puts HER and HER PEOPLE FIRST in everything he says and does.
Ducky, you don't "Float a boat" by weighing it down with more and more debt.

That people actually don't feel she does deserve No.1 standing in the world today is shocking and dangerous...for us and for the world.

Thanks, Frogburger....liberal Americans don't seem to care HOW many times we saved Europe's butt.
What a shame for those American soldiers who answered that need with their lives.

Heidianne, your uncle is a national treasure.

Maggie M. Thornton said...

Excellent thoughts of exactly what is happening from both Klaus and Priscilla. Klaus' comment about system-caused problems...it happens when we let our laws be overriden...taking liberties with the constitution that are not lawful - just simply ignored...and we do nothing.

We have legislators and they need to legislate with honor and not because the president told them to.

It is wonderful to know that our plight here is in the German papers. The free world needs to be wary.

beamish said...

Ducky,

Well, it certainly isn't shaping up to be an effective presidency, is it.

Uh, no.

Now go back to your 5% far left margins and watch what the total routing of a Presidential agenda looks like.

Z said...

Maggie, most Germans think Obama's a total empty suit and have since the Berlin speech in his campaign...they asked if their candidates could now come and campaign at the Statue of Liberty, but we weren't told that by The NY Pravda Times......

France's Sarkozy's know to scorn him behind his back; it's in all the papers.

Europeans don't use name calling within their own countries; they're more dignified than we are, their Right and Left as far as that's concerned, but they're not so PC that they won't tell people what they think of other world leaders, and they are SO not admiring of THIS THUG.

They can go poll any hippie on the Champs'Elysee or Leopoldstrasse all the want to hear HOW WONDERFUL AMERICA IS NOW WITH OBAMA, but that's stupid.......some poll

The world IS wary, Maggie...bet on it. And probably even a bit scared. I think a lot of our Left is, too.

beamish said...

Z,

I think in a few months the right in America will be looking at Obama and the Democrats 2010 electoral outlook with a bit of schadenfreude.

I predict people will be knocking each other over to vote in a Republican controlled Congress.

Ducky's here said...

Why does the left like Ducky thinks making everybody equal in a miserable state will solve problems of the world?

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When have I ever said that? What I have said is that it's time for the right to admit that the unregulated free market was a huge failure at the beginning of the century and was a huge failure under the Greenspan/Bush era.
The St. Ronnie Raygun era is over, it screwed up. Now when we get rid of the far right obstructionists maybe we can get on with it.

For the record, a far right obstructionist is anyone who is silly enough to call Obama a socialist.

Anonymous said...

Hi all, and thank you.

Klaus - It's true the system can be abused, any system can. It is difficult to rid the system of corruption when so many in responsible positions either participate in it, or look the other way.

The electorate of course is also responsible. We have, in America, dumbed down our education system for years. We have lowered that bar in the name of affirmative action and other left-wing perceptions of fairness.

We have not as a nation, instilled in our children, the importance of honor, ethics, individual responsibilty, the cost of indulgence, and the work ethic which made this country great.

For me, I believe we have come to a moment when we American citizens must make our presence felt and our outrage heard. It seems we don't do this until our backs are against the wall. Apathy has been ramant for years.

I hold our media responsible as well. Without the truth, the people are not aware of the reality in which we live. The press has become politicized and in many cases an arm of the government. This means we are all ill-served, and misinformed.

We have been on this road for years, a gradual effort on the part of those who wish to turn this country on her head. We, the citizens, tolerated these baby steps and gradual loss of freedoms
until now, we see this big push to force us into a place which is oppressive and unamerican.

We are now left to fight as best we can, hoping for a bigger and bigger groundswell until those in power must take heed, and know we are not willing to be steamrolled into oblivion.

Thank you Klaus for your most interesting response. I hope you remain engaged. Your perspective lends another dimension to the debate.

Pris (Priscilla)

Anonymous said...

""Resist, resist, resist, until we hurl the demagogues and tyrants from their imaginary thrones." --- Alexander Hamilton"

Heidianne, this is great. We can always go back to America's greatest minds and patriots. The right lessons are all there.

Pris

Mark said...

"For the record, a far right obstructionist is anyone who is silly enough to call Obama a socialist."

I call Obama a Marxist.

What's that make me?

Whatever you call me, I will wear the label like a badge, because I stand for liberty over tyranny.

And Obama is a Marxist.

heidianne jackson said...

ducky said "unregulated free market"

excuse me? when have we had an unregulated free market in the past 50 years? the problems are caused by government intrusion and attempt to control (or steer) the market.

obama is a marxist. period. point to one policy of his that examples otherwise.

Z said...

thanks for the super comments, folks.......My mind's so full of CRAP (pardon me) I heard today on the radio on the way home I can hardly think before I start typing a new post..........you're IN for it:-)

psi bond said...

Z: Psi...if people didn't act like thugs, I would be so loath to use that term; another one as pithy and true simply doesn't come to mind. I'm with you...how awful to have to call a president a name like that, indeed. I grieve.

People not as classy as you, Z, have long been using the term 'fascists'. But I'm with you: The language should be richer: thugs, imbeciles, Nazis, etc.----it's insufficient for angry rightwingers.

Thugs do not debate and seek public approval for the adoption of their ideas. I grieve for Americans who feel the need for and believe in the appropriateness of such pejoratives to express themselves in political discourse.

The United States of America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins. — George W. Bush

Of course, this is out of context----Bush was referring to thugs from abroad, not in the White House. That could be a new sense of the word for the dictionaries to take note of.

Perhaps, the term 'fascist thugs', albeit not a neologism, will bring together the upper and lower classes of angry folks. Let's hope so.

Z said...

thank you for the compliment, psi bond.

If a definition of NOT being a thug is one who seeks debate, then I guess I was right. The big hurry is not from one who seeks debate. The stimulus plan didn't even have time to be read, that's not seeking debate..you make a good point.

And yes, wasn't George Bush right again....

It gives me no pleasure to refer to an American president as a thug, but there are worse words I would never use in public.

Personally, I wish we had a president who would "Bring folks together" Sadly, this one seeks only to divide; by policy, by inference, by insulting ...it's so sad.

Thanks for coming by :-)

psi bond said...

thank you for the compliment, psi bond.

You are priceless. Z. Woops, I almost said 'praiseless'.

No, I am not a Freudian slipper----it doesn't fit me.

If a definition of NOT being a thug is one who seeks debate, then I guess I was right. The big hurry is not from one who seeks debate. The stimulus plan didn't even have time to be read, that's not seeking debate..you make a good point.

Guessing thus, you make a disingenuous point, Z, since the stimulus plan was hotly debated in Congress and in public forums, and still is. There are no thugs threatening its critics with life and limb, as thugs are wont to do. Thugs do not present arguments for public approval, as was done with the stimulus plan and is done for other Obama proposals. Thugs censor arguments. A bipartisan sense of urgency is not the equivalent of thuggery.

And yes, wasn't George Bush right again....

Was Bush a thug? Detaining indefinitely anyone he wanted without access to a judicial process, creating policies that subjected people to torture in violation of human rights and American standards of morality?

It gives me no pleasure to refer to an American president as a thug, but there are worse words I would never use in public.

Yes, I know (I feel your pain). Some rightwingers have called Obama a traitor. Or a Nazi and/or fascist. Or an imbecile.

In fact, the number of uses here of 'thug' indicate that rightwing posters get not-so-secret pleasure from calling their president a thug. But I am thankful you, at least, are civilized enough, Z, to restrain yourself from indulging in the worst pejorative epithets.

Personally, I wish we had a president who would "Bring folks together" Sadly, this one seeks only to divide; by policy, by inference, by insulting ...it's so sad.

It isn't that he hasn't tried, but many rightwingers, acting stupidly, have made the partisan divide too wide to bridge, even for the good of America. It's like they want to help him fail, for the sake of conservatism and Republican power. It's so sad: Republicans used to say that Democrats would do anything to gain power; no doubt Republicans are now saying the same about Republicans.

Thanks for coming by :-)

And thank you for your courtesy. I'll try to come by more often :-)

Z said...

Psi, I wasn't going to respond to you, you're so small minded and stuck in your silly leftwinger rut that what's the point? Then I went to another blog and saw this: Kind of fits...I've met 3 people in 2 weeks who regret their vote for Obama, one a very liberal doctor who's screaming for Republican help against this bill ("where ARE THEY?" is what he asked Mr Z), which even surprised me. here's the bit from the blog...

"I met a young man a couple of days ago who confided in me that up until recently he had no interest in politics at all. But, he said, all that changed when Obama began taking over banks, auto makers, insurance companies, etc. He began to see how dangerous it would be to allow this man to grasp and hold that much power and control over Americans.

Gradually, he came to the realization that America, as he once knew it, had ceased to exist, and he fears now for the safety of his children and his children's children.

This is what he said to me:

"I guess I have to thank Obama for getting me involved in politics".

I wonder how many Conservatives Obama has created with his Marxist policies.

How many Democrats have become Republicans thanks to Obama?

How many Liberals are no longer Liberals?

I guess it's true:

Every cloud has a silver lining."

not sure there's much silver, but we sure do have a cloud in Obama, the man who never misses an opportunity not to show any appreciation for America.

Z said...

http://leftfieldperspectives.blogspot.com/

"Casting Pearls to Swines" is my friend's blog....you might find it appropriate. Enjoy

psi bond said...

Z: "Casting Pearls to Swines" is my friend's blog....you might find it appropriate. Enjoy.

Whether this is a reference to cloven-hoofed animals or contemptible persons, you cannot count yourself one of the enlightened √©lite if you think the plural of ‘swine’ is ‘swines’.

The "Pearls Before Swine" comic strip is more amusing.

psi bond said...

Psi, I wasn't going to respond to you, you're so small minded and stuck in your silly leftwinger rut that what's the point?

You are changing the subject, as usual, Z.

Supposing my mind is defective for being liberal is what I would call a small-minded and silly perspective. And characteristically Old School conservative.

When I voted for Obama, I was realistic. I realized he could never fix all the serious problems that America faces, or even make everyone happy about his approach----not in the six months he has had so far, nor in four years, or in eight, should he get that far. I also know that the things most Americans have come to expect of their president is increasingly unrealistic. The Founding Fathers intended a more modest role for the president: defend the country when attacked, enforce the law, uphold the Constitution. In 1956, Clinton Rossiter, a political scientist, wrote that Americans wanted their president to make the country rich, to take the lead on domestic policy, to respond to floods, hurricanes, and rail strikes, to act as the nation's moral spokesman, and to lead the free world. The occupant of the Oval Office had to be "a combination of scoutmaster, Delphic oracle, hero of the silver screen and father of the multitudes," he said. In short, an impossible being.

Then I went to another blog and saw this: Kind of fits...I've met 3 people in 2 weeks who regret their vote for Obama, one a very liberal doctor who's screaming for Republican help against this bill ("where ARE THEY?" is what he asked Mr Z), which even surprised me. here's the bit from the blog...

I am not surprised that you can find people, who, taking a small-picture view of the immediate situation, will tell you what you want to hear, that they regret their vote. I suspect they would have regretted the election of the alternative (Palin and McCain) had they voted for it, and so would have many conservatives.

Then I turned to my copy of the latest issue of The Economist: Noting the ups and downs of Obama's popularity, it reported, "A Pew poll published this week finds that 93% of Germans expect him to do the right thing in world affairs. Only 14% thought that about Mr. Bush." Many people here and abroad have not written him off, as the rightwing blogosphere and rightwing media, lusting for a failed Democratic president, are aggressively urging them to do.

... I wonder how many Conservatives Obama has created with his Marxist policies.

Does Mr Z have an entertaining argument that Obama is a Nazi and a fascist, too?

Mark said...

... I wonder how many Conservatives Obama has created with his Marxist policies.

Does Mr Z have an entertaining argument that Obama is a Nazi and a fascist, too?


She's not quoting Mr. Z there. She's quoting me, and yes, I say if the shoe fits, wear it.

Do I see him as a fascist and a Nazi? I see him, as I said, as a Marxist, but his tactics are certainly fascist. I also don't put it past him to be a closeted Muslim intent on destroying America from within> What say you?

That I don't have a right to my opinion? I would venture to say you and Obama are cut from the same mold if you do.

Z gives me too much credit. I am simply one voice crying in the wilderness for sanity to return to America.

It was Liberal brainwashed Obama worshipers like you and other various Liberal idiots that was the reason I titled my blog "Casting Pearls before Swine", because no matter how much common sense I wrote, some Libs would continue to argue.

I found I was and am, as the title suggest, Casting pearls of wisdom before Liberal swine.

psi bond said...

... I wonder how many Conservatives Obama has created with his Marxist policies.

Does Mr Z have an entertaining argument that Obama is a Nazi and a fascist, too?

She's not quoting Mr. Z there.

I know she isn't. My remark was just a jest (as in humor), Mark.

She's quoting me, and yes, I say if the shoe fits, wear it.

I say you give yourself too much credit, Mark. All the many people labeling Obama a Marxist are not all quoting you----you are too eager to wear this shoe.

Do I see him as a fascist and a Nazi? I see him, as I said, as a Marxist, but his tactics are certainly fascist. I also don't put it past him to be a closeted Muslim intent on destroying America from within> What say you?

'Fascist' has no meaning today other than 'something not desirable.'

I don't put it past rightwingers to claim for political gain that he's a closeted Muslim.

But I say willingly that, in our liberal democracy, you have a right to your opinion, no matter how preposterous it may be. You can even vote for Sarah Palin–––when she gets her show cooking a stew from moose on Fox.

It seems the notion that liberals are crypto-traitors is a widespread rightwing thought. Liberals also have a right to their opinions, no matter how treasonous disapproving rightwingers declare them to be.

That I don't have a right to my opinion? I would venture to say you and Obama are cut from the same mold if you do.

We may or may not be, ideologically speaking, but it is unwarranted to presume that I think you have no right to your opinion. Or that the president thinks that. You could be fantasizing persons who want to censor you and other flattering imaginary things.

Z gives me too much credit. I am simply one voice crying in the wilderness for sanity to return to America.

I'm sure you have the right to believe that.

However, there are many Republicans in the wilderness drowning you out chanting, "Obama is a Marxist," in the hope the American electorate will take them in.

It was Liberal brainwashed Obama worshipers like you and other various Liberal idiots that was the reason I titled my blog "Casting Pearls before Swine", because no matter how much common sense I wrote, some Libs would continue to argue.

I think the comic strip of the same name has a better sense of humor. It's sad how many rightwingers believe their sense of things is the only appropriate view.

I found I was and am, as the title suggest, Casting pearls of wisdom before Liberal swine.

You show a well-developed élitist class consciousness.

Wisdom is knowing you cannot always be right.

Even if you are on the right.